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Juan Foyth

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Jordinho, 30 Aug 2017.

  1. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Andy Thompson Staff Member

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    The Hazard contact? Certainly could’ve been given. Moments earlier, Kane had used/positioned his body in a similar way to draw contact and Atkinson waved that away too. He seemed uninterested in giving those.

    Hazard’s dive later? Poor wunnit?!!!!


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  2. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Johnny Morrison

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    Come on, mate. This is his, what, third game in the first team?

    Like Sanchez last season, he's entitled to have no expectations placed on him at this stage. Enjoy the good, forget the bad. ;) And it's not like his challenges in the box are actually costing us anything, anyway.
     
  3. Rorschach

    Rorschach Les Howe

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    2nd one was a dive from Hazard, no doubt. But the first one was a pen IMHO. Atkinson was unpredictable all day so I would not use him as any sort of barometer as to what is legal or not. As @DubaiSpur says it was only his 3rd game but it could very easily be also his 3rd penalty conceded in those 3 games. I get that he is new to the first team but he is not new to football. Those are ill-advised challenges at any level. Anyway, all's well that ends well so no point dwelling on it.

    What I do like is that he reads the game so well for someone so young. He is well ahead of his years on that front. Add to that his composure on the ball and I think we have unearthed a real gem here. Massive kudos to whoever scouted this kid.
     
  4. Yiddo

    Yiddo Vedran Corluka

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    Great defender but losses out on alot of aerial battles.
     
  5. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Pat van den Hauwe

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    Worth noting he nearly scored again.
     
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  6. Rorschach

    Rorschach Les Howe

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    Was that Foyth with the backheel thing that went by the post?
     
  7. jts1882

    jts1882 Dean Austin

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    You mean like yesterday?
     
  8. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Pat van den Hauwe

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    Can't remember, but I'm sure he went close at some point!
     
  9. parklane1

    parklane1 Dimitar Berbatov

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    Yep.
     
  10. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Chris Perry

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    Yes he gave two pens away, but arguably neither were even "on" him - which should be remembered.

    The first one DEFINITELY wasnt on him, Trippier fudged him completely on that situation.

    Theres already a narrative forming of "he already gave away 2..." which I really feel people should apply the right context to.

    It was an iffy challenge, could easily have been given and would have been hard to argue against, but its not something Im looking to beat him up over at this point.
     
  11. parklane1

    parklane1 Dimitar Berbatov

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    Agree with you, he is a kid playing in a much faster Lge ( hense getting caught out when tackling) then he is used to and will adapt to that the more he plays. I would be amazed if he does not become a top class player here.
     
  12. StephenH

    StephenH Jimmy McCormick

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    Hazard makes monkeys of the best of defenders.
    Tricky bugger!
     
  13. Rorschach

    Rorschach Les Howe

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    I think you are forming a counter-narrative that he is almost blameless ;). I'm not going to labour the point as I think he's a great player in the making. It is, however, something he needs to work on IMO. It is a simple point nothing more.
     
  14. NaijaSpurs

    NaijaSpurs John Lacy

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    I thought it was Toby
     
  15. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Chris Perry

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    I think against Wolves, he pretty much is. Which is why the whole "Well he gave away 2 penalties so better watch him for clangers..." narrative is something I find jarring.
     
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    Glenda's Legs Dean Austin

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    I assume when you speak of applying context you are referring to external comments rather than comments from Spurs fans? I don’t think any Spurs fan believes he was 400% to blame for those two penalties against Wolves. Far from it. The situation for the first one was derived from a ridiculous error/over-confident action from Trippier, but Foyth panicked and a penalty resulted. The second one was unfortunate - often wouldn’t have been given but it still showed some naivety on his part. But whilst not his fault, the team will still be punished when it goes wrong.

    He was lucky yesterday. In real time, standing behind the goal, it looked like a penalty to me. It was a dangerous action. But one of his strengths is that he doesn’t let those instances get the better of him and he still put in a performance of confidence and maturity. He shows immense promise for one so young in a CB position but mistakes in that area can be the most damaging, and we will see him being targeted by savvy strikers. Fortunately he seems very capable on the whole of dealing with that and he will learn through experience
     
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  17. Glenda's Legs

    Glenda's Legs Dean Austin

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    Definitely Foyth. Didn’t realise it at the time but they showed it as part of a compilation on the screens at the end of the game.
     
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  18. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Chris Perry

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    Im applying in general, neither specifically to commentary or fans.

    Its a theme that seems to be picking up pace, and one I dont agree with. I think the context of "Yes he gave away two penatlies - but no it wasnt because he dropped two massive clangers" needs to be applied.
     
  19. Rorschach

    Rorschach Les Howe

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    I'm not forming a narrative, and I not did I say that. It is a point I am making.
     
  20. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Chris Perry

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    Then good for you. What you were saying sounded very much like that narrative, hence my taking it as a point to raise my feelings on the matter.
     

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