Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
But are we conceding more set pieces or is that just a perception?
I haven’t seen any data that shows that so far
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I haven’t seen any data that shows that so far
That is what the data in the quote above from you seems to suggest unless I'm misinterpreting it which is quite possible
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
I just did some digging (joys of being off work with kids watching TV)
We have conceded the 5th fewest dead balls in the league, below average on corners and free kicks too
We do however have the highest SCA against us from them I believe so chances created them is high, however the quality of those chances is the lowest in the league...
So basically we don’t concede as many set pieces as people think, but when we do the opposition do get chances, just really poor ones. Hence why when you look at the ones we have conceded goals against, their either great finishes or defensive errors that gave them the goal
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Luka Modric
tickle my balls with a feather mate.
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Luka Modric
So that suggests a high proportion of the set pieces that we concede are in dangerous positions, which is natural considering we take our defensive line not far from the edge of our penalty area.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Or we defend them poorly
The xG form free kicks is super low
As in their not high scoring chance sheikh would suggest their not from dangerous positions
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
That’s all that matters
How we defend them or not... as the case may be
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Pools winner was a corner
The penalty Aurier gave away was from a corner
Wolves scored from a corner
Palace was a free kick granted
The other goals we conceded were unlucky deflections
So unless we wanna defend corners further out, how deep we are is kinda irrelevant. It’s purely how we actually defend them surely ?
The penalty Aurier gave away was from a corner
Wolves scored from a corner
Palace was a free kick granted
The other goals we conceded were unlucky deflections
So unless we wanna defend corners further out, how deep we are is kinda irrelevant. It’s purely how we actually defend them surely ?
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Ron Henry
Yep, you don't concede from a set piece if you defend it properly, penalties an obvious exception.
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Luka Modric
West Ham - 2 x free kicks. Everton - free kick. Saudi Sportswashing Machine - penalty from a free kick. The fact that the free kicks are high up the pitch mean the opposition can get a ball into our box.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
That was all before we defended deep though
We act silly changes how we defended free locals after thy taking a line level with the free kick or as high as possible
The problem went away
Now though corners are the problem
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Luka Modric
Sorry, I don’t get your second line there?
Against West Ham we defended deep in that second half and got deeper and deeper as the game went on. Towards the end of that Saudi Sportswashing Machine game we also started to do it. Everton, we were just abject full stop.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
So we defended deep for 10 minutes of a game...
ok then
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Luka Modric
No... more like for about 45 minutes plus of it. We went deep earlier in that West Ham game.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
We really didn’t IMO
I’ll get the action area stats to have a look in a bit
What I will say is when you do go ahead it’s natural to concede some space and sometimes the opposition can play well too even when going behind.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
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Luka Modric
Looks like we were deeper than West Ham, no?
can you show same for second half only.... I think it would be even more pronounced.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
No that’s the whole game
Yep we are a big deeper than West Ham but not much in it
As I said it’s no suprise when your 3 up and the opposition have nothing else to do but commit players and they were playing well
I also posted the Chelsea game heat maps in the other thread... their worth a look
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Terry Venables
@DubSpur @Bedfordspurs
The attached images shows where we stand in regards to conceding goals from setpieces this season.
The raw numbers themselves are not that hight but we are relatively high up in the table for goals conceded from setpieces. 6 times as many as Arsenal interesting and 3x times as many as Emirates Marketing Project but the same as United and pretty similar to Liverpool and Chelsea.