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I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by SuprSi, 30 Aug 2013.

  1. Raziel

    Raziel Steffen Iversen

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    You think you are going to get a better option than Lucas to sit on the bench? for what money?

    Sorry mate, just not even a remote priority, before that we need
    - CB, replacement for Sanchez short term, Toby long term
    - CM, someone to rotate/backup with PEH, perhaps another creative player.
    - GK, backup, long term replacement for Hugo (might be critical if the noise re PSG has anything to it)

    I'd probably even put RB on the list before a Lucas replacement

    Lamela goes, Bale will not be long term, we seem to be giving Bergwijn the chance to make it his own, Lucas is a decent bench/cup option.

    With the current game financial situation as well, I doubt anyone in the club is even thinking about it.
     
  2. billyiddo

    billyiddo Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    i don't want players to 'sit on the bench' i want players that are going to push for a first team position - Bergwijn himself still has it all to prove and so whoever is the alternative option in that position needs to be competent as they're likely to get plenty of game time and Moura has shown time and time again that he is not good enough to play regualrly for us as he rarely plays well, 1 in 10 at best and the other 9 he spends all game running in to blind alleys and giving the ball away. do i think we could get a better option than Moura off the bench? yes i do, he's not even the best option in the squad off the bench in his own position - if we were actually to go in to the market id be confident of improving on him with relative ease. If we sold Lamela/Moura and terminated Bales contract we'd likely have enough to be looking at competition for Bergwijn rather than a bench warmer.
     
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    billyiddo Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    whatever credit either player had in the bank has long since been used up for me - if Lamela was fit and getting minutes id at least be able to continue arguing why i think he offers something but he can't even do that so what's the point? it remains to be seen whether Bergwijn has what it takes but he's new and has time on his side at least so sell the players we know arent ever going to be at the level we need and bring someone in who could be.
     
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  4. Baleforce

    Baleforce Bert Bliss

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    Goals scored alone is a terrible way of judging midfielders. We need to look at a much wider range of influence, how many assists, how many assists of assists, how may diversion runs, how many breaks stopped, how many opposing players left with broken fingers etc etc.

    Loads of things effect the result of games, being the one who puts the ball over the line really isn't that important.
     
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  5. billyiddo

    billyiddo Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    i agree but none of that's important when you arent ever fit enough to play games
     
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    Baleforce Bert Bliss

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    I don't think thats been an issue for either Moura or Bergwijn
     
  7. billyiddo

    billyiddo Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    I don't think either player, especially Moura, contributes in the ways you suggest
     
  8. Baleforce

    Baleforce Bert Bliss

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    I think they both contribute a lot, Bergwijn in particular has been a real asset lately with the amount of work he puts in, thats backed up by Jose regularly starting him.

    Moura has had some bad games recently, but for most of his time here he has been a hard working runner that wins a lot of FK's and turns defenders around.
     
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  9. billyiddo

    billyiddo Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    I don't think that backs anything up really as i think there's a real dearth of quality in contention for that position - Bergwijn undoubtedly the best option as he appears to have some intelligence off the ball at least.
     
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    Bishop Niko Kranjcar

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    Bergwijn has intelligence on the ball also. He doesn't consistently make the wrong choice when on the ball like the options often do. His execution can be off but the intentions are usually correct.
     
  11. parklane1

    parklane1 David Ginola

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    I think even if we want to get rid of Lamela ( i would) i am not sure we would get good money for him to start with and finding a club who wants to sign a player who is always injured/ill is not going to be easy anyway.
     
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    Bishop Niko Kranjcar

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    We might have to let his contract lapse if there isn't much interest in him.
     
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    parklane1 David Ginola

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    You could be right, how long has he got left.
     
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    Bishop Niko Kranjcar

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    June 2022 so 2 years left. I guess if he doesn't go before that, it's two years of filling in and playing a part.
     
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    parklane1 David Ginola

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    Pretty much what he has done since he first came here then :(
     
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    Roland Beurre Erik Edman

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    The "Evenink Stannik"* has quoted Mourinho as saying Lamela is "legally available" for selection for the Fulham game. What could he be implying?

    * I am not sure that joke works now news vendors outside the station are as rare as those machines that used to dispense cartons of milk.
     
  17. Baleforce

    Baleforce Bert Bliss

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    do you mean a cow?
     
  18. Raziel

    Raziel Steffen Iversen

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    If it's a serious question, it means Lamela is available but Jose/Club haven't decided if his covid stupidity deserves further punishment (dropped from games)
     
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    JerusalemMan Vedran Corluka

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    Watching the news conference really gives context to those words. Mourinho's manner was odd.
    About 13 minutes in here.

     
  20. Roland Beurre

    Roland Beurre Erik Edman

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    [​IMG]
     
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