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Grealish

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by harr1984, 26 May 2018.

  1. Legohamster

    Legohamster Vedran Corluka

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    That’s why we should avoid a part exchange with Real.

    Use the full amount of cash elsewhere
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    A part-exchange would only make sense for us if it was for Isco.
     
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  3. braineclipse

    braineclipse Andy Thompson

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    If Grealish is a bang average show pony, Frazier Campbell level player, it's not a question of replacing him for Eriksen, he's simply not a player we should ever sign. I have no opinion on his quality as I haven't seen him play in years.
     
  4. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Mauricio Taricco

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    2018-19: 33 games 6 Goals 6 Assists

    2017-18: 30 games 3 Goals 6 Assists

    2016-17: 31 games 5 Goals 2 Assists

    Premier league record before that is even worse.

    For a player who's supposed to be the creative force for his team, they're really unimpressive numbers.

    Plus he has brick hair, dallies on the ball and is a bit of a prick.
     
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  5. Legohamster

    Legohamster Vedran Corluka

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    Even that less so, they will desperate to sell if it gets close to the end of the window if they are signing all these players.

    Get him for much less

    Also ZZ is a fan I thought?
     
  6. harr1984

    harr1984 Steve Carr

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    And what about 'chances created' that would actually be a more telling stat?
     
  7. Legohamster

    Legohamster Vedran Corluka

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    Onamahs stats at Villa

    4 goals 3 assists in 33 - so pretty much on par.
     
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  8. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Here's a good selection of stats - looks like a dribble/foul machine.

    The left side of that chart does not look at all like a Poch midfielder.
     
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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Buying Ndombele will just return us to where we were before we lost Dembele (albeit with added youth/fitness).

    That will makes Eriksen for Grealish as a straight replacement and a massive, massive downgrade. Even his greatest proponents would agree, I'm sure, that that's not a swap we'd want to make.
     
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  10. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    The merits of swapping Grealish for Nkoudou is the only conversation we should be having
     
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    parklane1 Andy Thompson

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    Can not disagree with that at all.
     
  12. afsoc4life

    afsoc4life Eidur Gudjohnsen

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    Dont want him but I will trust Pochettino
     
  13. Legohamster

    Legohamster Vedran Corluka

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    He’s a highlight reel player
     
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  14. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    He's certainly not a presser/tackler.
     
  15. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Tom Huddlestone

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    Thats not his job in that Villa side. He has played with McGinn/Whelan/Hourihane behind him and been given remit to do more creative work.

    Which he has.

    Im not saying he CAN press and tackle, Im saying thats not been his role.

    He could well be quite effective if given the remit.
     
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  16. harr1984

    harr1984 Steve Carr

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    Exactly, Poch will identify if a player has the traits he believes he can mould into his system which is what any good coach does. What he is doing at a different club under a different manager isnt relevant to an extent. He is always up and down the pitch so no doubt has the engine and last time I checked Eriksen wasnt renowned for his tackling. Given all the tools at Spurs would be very interested to see how he improves.....
     
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    braineclipse Andy Thompson

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    Eriksen and Alli have played deeper roles this season, a role someone like Ndombele could perhaps fill?

    It wouldn't necessarily be Grealish for Eriksen. Sometimes perhaps Moura for Eriksen with Grealish on the bench.

    It all depends on how good Grealish actually is and what his potential is. If he's not at the required level for us short or long term that's the answer, regardless of if Eriksen stays or leaves.

    If he's good enough to be a positive signing if Eriksen stays he should be good enough to be a positive signing if Eriksen leaves. Though other players might have to be signed as well...
     
  18. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Tom Huddlestone

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    Honestly, all this talk of Eriksen, I think if he leaves we will do more of a Liverpool (after Coutinho) than actually try to replace him.

    Change shape, switch to a 4-3-3, alter tactically to come at the game from a different angle.

    IMO there is no replacing Eriksen.
     
  19. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Simon Davies

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    I agree with you completely (and I was somebody who was more than happy to sign Grealish last summer, especially at the original asking price that Levy ballsed up). Grealish is a player who would add to our squad but is nowhere near replacing Eriksen (and probably never will be). If Eriksen goes then he needs to be replaced with either an already proven, top class player or a younger player in a decent league who already has very, very good numbers.
     
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    Finney Is Back Simon Davies

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    Not necessarily N'koudou.... maybe Lamela (although I find it strange that we're not even looking in the direction of Ziyech to do that for such a reasonable release clause).
     

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