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Giovani Lo Celso

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Jordinho, 8 Aug 2019.

  1. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Ralph Coates

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    No
    Because Kane is the pelanty taker
    He plays the son role for united in effect
     
  2. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    Gotta admit, it feels like we bought the wrong guy - a perpetual sicknote over Fernandes, a leader and a warrior.

    Sigh. Maybe he'll be back in February.
     
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    metalgear Jimmy McCormick

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    I'm not convinced of lo celso even when he's fit. Like lamela lots of juicy moments but very little game changing presence

    Sent from my SM-T865 using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
  4. Bishop

    Bishop Eidur Gudjohnsen

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    The best Lo Celso we've seen was the latter end of last season when he played as a CM next to Winks. He more than held his own defensively and I see no reason he couldn't play such a role again.

    Out on the right trying to play RWF doesn't suit his attributes, we need him playing centrally and as close to Ndombele and Kane as possible. Just because he has a left foot doesn't make him a RWF.

    I still contend to get the very best from this squad we need to at a 433 of Hojberg, Ndombele and GLC. Between the three of them there is more than enough workrate and defensive nous to be secure and of course fantastic quality in possession and attack.
     
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    DeanoAustin Dean Richards

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    Couldn’t agree more. I think at that time Jose said he wouldn’t swap him for anyone in the world which is a bit of hyperbole but that was his best spell for us.

    From what I’ve seen, he won’t score much, he won’t assist much but he can keep the ball, pick a pass and help beat an opposition press. He’s also got a nasty streak. Problem is that he’s obviously injury prone and he doesn’t fit the stereotype of a Jose CM.
     
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  6. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Ralph Coates

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    I thought there was a pairing there TBF but I do really like Lo Celso
    Seems to make the right decisions every time
     
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    milo Jürgen Klinsmann Staff Member

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    I agree and I think that a more attacking manager would line up like that. Unfortunately, it seems that Mourinho has decided that both Ndombele and Lo Celso are #10s.
     
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  8. Spurs7891

    Spurs7891 Jermaine Jenas

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    Lo Celso already seems like a injury-prone player. Surely, it must be a Spurs curse, players getting injury-prone after joining us.
     
  9. metalgear

    metalgear Jimmy McCormick

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    DubaiSpur Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    Passing up on Bruno Fernandes for this perpetual sicknote is looking more and more like the blunder of the decade.

    Don't know what his issues are, but he's at risk of drifting into the same perpetually injured cul-de-sac as Lamela. I hope for his sake he turns it around.
     
  11. Gazza

    Gazza Chris Armstrong

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    Don't worry had we signed Bruno he would have been permanently injured too.
     
  12. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Ralph Coates

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    Sharing too much hometime with Lamela can have that affect in you
     
  13. spurspinter1

    spurspinter1 Dean Austin

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    GLC is a bit of an anomaly as players off the pitch get more and more hyped up the longer they're out for..Whereas I don't see many screaming out for his return, nor a big Gio shaped hole in the team at the minute either.

    Am I under-rating him perhaps? I reckon our midfield would invariably look worse without one of him or Tanguy in there as we'd lose the creative aspect but the Frenchman is just about one of the only impactful influences in making it enjoyable to watch Spurs of late and I doubt Gio would have that same effect.

    Hadn't watched an awful lot of GLC prior to his signing but to me he's like a left footed Eriksen replacement who isn't getting anywhere near the same numbers, hell I bet even Erik is way ahead on assists + goals per minute but maybe I'm judging him by the wrong stats. Hope my feelings prove to be wrong in the long run but it appears that half the time he'll be out and the other half he'll be working his way back to form before another injury pops up...
     
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    billyiddo Steve Sedgley Staff Member

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    @spurspinter1 It's strange cos the opinion at the time seemed to be he was one of our better players last season yet for some reason no one seems to be really missing him?

    I think you're a bit off in your Eriksen comparison, he was no creative playmaker at Betis afaia - i don't really know what the term would be but he looked more of a goalscoring box to box type to me from what i saw in videos - it seemed to me we were moving towards a 433 with a more defensive midfielder being targeted in future windows (we now have Hojberg) to complete the miffield 3 alongside Ndombele
     
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    MKSpur Pat van den Hauwe

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    GLC played 3 more games in the Prem than Lamela the last two seasons, one goal and three assists for him vs 2 goals and one assist.

    I think the concerns over his injury record are valid. He was a bright spot last year for his work rate, ability to carry the ball, resist the press and win the ball back. Mourinho must have signed off on his early loan conversion to a perm deal but I’m not sure he was ever supposed to be Eriksen’s replacement as even at Betis his assist tally was low.
    When he returns I’d partner him with Hojbjerg and return Ndombele to the attacking role, hopefully Lo Celso will be able to get the ball to him quicker and also draw players towards him to give him more spade to operate. I do like ndombele operating deeper but Lo Celso would give us a lot more on the ball than messrs Winks or Sissoko operating there.
     
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    spurspinter1 Dean Austin

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    Its a nice thought to think we’ll have all three of Tanguy, GLC and PEH readily available at the same time, sadly with our injury record it’s pie in the sky style thinking. If it only takes one of our first choice midfielders to reduce it to how it performs currently I guess it’s a squad problem (not trying to lay blame solely on Gio for current woes)..

    Maybe looking at players as a replacement for former players isn’t the best way of thinking on my part...I’m still sceptical at the reasoning behind signing Gio and Tanguy at the same time, but I guess we didn’t perceive how long it would take for them to settle and the injury problems to boot.
     
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    MKSpur Pat van den Hauwe

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    Maybe Poch thought GLC was an upgrade Winks and Ndombele on Sissoko, whilst replacing the almost irreplaceable Dembele?
     
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    Bishop Eidur Gudjohnsen

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    GLC is clearly not an Eriksen replacement and I doubt he was ever intended to be, their game style and attributes are completely different.

    If you recall to the latter end of the Pitch era we played a diamond fairly often and suffered due to not having the right type of players for the system.

    In the back of my mind I've always wondered if that shape played a part in the Ndombele and GLC interest with them taking either side of the diamond and potentially Fernandez/Dybala taking the point of the diamond.

    Either way I 99% certain if Poch was asked he would not say GLC was intended to directly replace Eriksen, if that was his intention then he clearly needed the break and had list his mind.
     
  19. AjaxDeSuperYids

    AjaxDeSuperYids Neil Ruddock

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    Where the hell is this guy and what the hell is wrong with him?
     
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    Bedfordspurs Ralph Coates

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    Lamela disease has caught him
     

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