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Football and money

Discussion in 'General Football' started by milo, 10 Feb 2015.

  1. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Nick Barmby

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    Is this 2017 the year, or the season beginning in 2017? If the former, then not much is down to Wembley? Could be even closer for 2018, and will be interesting to see this comparison after a year in NWHL.
     
  2. P.D.

    P.D. Jonathan Woodgate

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    I think our target in 5 years (finance wise) should be to be number 3 in revenue in the PL, I don't think we can catch the Manchester clubs but great opportunity to overtake everyone else.
     
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  3. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Steve Carr

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    All #AFC revenue streams decreased: broadcasting was £19m (9%) lower at £180m, mainly due to lower Europa League distributions; commercial dropped £10m (9%) to £107m; match day declined £1m (1%) to £99m; while player loans fell £5m to £2m.

    At the same time, the #AFC wage bill, excluding exceptional costs, increased by £24m (12%) to £223m; player amortisation/impairment was up £15m to £92m; and other expenses rose £8m (10%) to £87m. There were also £17m exceptional leaving payments to Wenger and his support team.
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    EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Tax, Depreciation & Amortisation), considered as a proxy for cash operating profit, as it excludes player sales and exceptional items, slumped from £144m to £78m, though this is still the third highest in the club’s history.

    Following this decrease, #AFC EBITDA of £78m is now only the sixth highest in the Premier League, less than half of #MUFC’s £177m, which is due to United’s amazing ability to generate cash, and also below #MCFC £125m and #CFC £94m (of the clubs that have reported 2017/18 results)
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  4. Jordinho

    Jordinho Clive Allen Staff Member

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  5. jts1882

    jts1882 Jermaine Jenas

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    Qatar bought the 2022 World Cup, now they seem to have acquired a football team. They had beaten three former Asian champions (Saudi Arabia, Iraq, South Korea) on the way to the final, beating hosts UAE 4-0 in the semi-final, and have yet to concede a goal (16-0 before the final competition).

    Japan v Qatar in the Asian Cup final

     
  6. Jordinho

    Jordinho Clive Allen Staff Member

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    At least half their squad are either imported or born in Qatar to non-native parents. International football was already getting rather meaningless, but this should be the death of it.
     
  7. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Mitchell Thomas

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    Who cares.....they beat South Korea that's all that matters.
     
  8. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Nick Barmby

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    I was going to put money on them buying that winning, I think they think it will give their country some footballing standing. Odds were brick so didn't bother.
     
  9. Bullet

    Bullet Chris Perry

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    This below is why I was saying WAGES and RESALE VALUE were more important than the initial transfer fee.

    I.e. if you spend a whopping £73m on someone, that doesn't matter if wages are low and you get £100m when you sell them...

    Whereas the Goons have handed out whopping wages, and are allowing players to leave for free. Happy days!

    And note that bit about "clubs can only increase their wage bill by 7% per season" - that prevents Spurs from ramping up salaries if true? Daily Fail article:






    Arsenal manager Unai Emery will once again have sparse resources at his disposal this summer with the club set to hand him a mere £45million to spend in the transfer market.

    What are the restrictions on the wage bill?

    Their wage bill is at the absolute limit, mainly due to the decision to award Ozil a contract worth £350,000-per-week. The deal essentially means the club - in terms of playing contracts - are punching well above their weight.

    The repercussion of that deal are starting to take hold. A restricted playing budget in terms of wages and fees is something manager Unai Emery will have to contend with moving forward. Under Financial Fair Play regulations, clubs can only increase their wage bill by seven per cent per season. Arsenal are approaching that threshold with the current wage bill around £210,000,000 in the latest financial results, hence the restrictions.

    And who are the top earners?

    Ozil by a country mile. Aubameyang earns close to £200,000-per-week, Henrikh Mkhitaryan is on £160,000-per-week while Lacazette’s deal is worth in the region of £140,000-per-week. There are then a host of players earning at least £100,000-per-week. In short: Arsenal’s wage structure is at breaking point.


    Why are they letting Aaron Ramsey leave on a free?

    The decision is believed to have been taken by Emery. But the financial implications on the decision are clear. Ramsey, rightly so, would have expected a new contract worth well in-excess of his current £100,000-per-week wage - perhaps close to double that sum. The club were prepared to give him an improved deal, and Ramsey was ready to sign. But the offer was eventually retracted, with sources claiming Emery - knowing the budget he is working to - believes the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.

    How much has Mesut Ozil’s huge contract cost them?

    A whopping £63million. An incredible amount of money. Given Emery does not view Ozil as a part of his long-term plans - an incredible mistake.


    What other gaffes have they made with transfer dealings?

    Allowing players to run down their contracts. Ramsey - a proven Premier League player - has been allowed to leave for nothing. In today’s market, Ramsey would be worth in the region of £50million.

    Danny Welbeck - an England international - is set to leave for nothing in the summer when his deal expires. Jack Wheelchair was allowed to leave for nothing last summer.

    Rejecting a £60million offer from Emirates Marketing Project for Alexis Sanchez in the summer of 2017 only to sell him in a swap deal with Mkhitaryan six months later. Mkhitaryan earns more than Sanchez did at the Emirates. And there’s plenty more examples.
     
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  10. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Steve Carr

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    Glenda's Legs Mitchell Thomas

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    Seeing as we tend to speak of earnings in gross figures over here, that doesn't make it any less insane. If his post-tax is £250k pw, that's still going to be in the region of £400k pw pre-tax.
     
  12. jaysea67

    jaysea67 Espen Baardsen

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    It's £7m not 7 per cent and that is a big simplification.

    Under the Premier League's Short Term Cost Control rules, most clubs are permitted to increase their wages by £7m per year. Any increase in excess of this cannot be financed from the club's share of central PL funds but is allowed if funded by increases in the club's own income (sponsorship, player trading, matchday income).
     
  13. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Young-Pyo Lee

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    The ramsey deal is one of pure insanity
     
  14. Jordinho

    Jordinho Clive Allen Staff Member

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    They have to be paying him some of the money they saved on the transfer fee, just spread out over the length of the contract for FFP reasons. There couldn't possibly that much interest in his signing to warrant such an inflated basic wage.
     
  15. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Young-Pyo Lee

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    I don't care how you package it, the bosman was set up so players could move clubs not take huge money out the game, I peg his salary to those of the same level and he is not £400,000 a week and nor should he get that in what would have been transfer fees.
     
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    Grays_1890 Young-Pyo Lee

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    Women moaning about the lack of equal prize money in football, what a joke they are.

    Its taken over 100 years for the mens game to be where it is and its a huge commercial success and money driver, therefore the clubs get money out from what they put in, when the womans game does that they can start to earn the same money.
     
  17. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Nick Barmby

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    Not to mention the women draining the men earning big money. It all goes to bloody women anyway!
     
  18. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Young-Pyo Lee

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    Hahaha its funny though because thats what it will be "We want EQUAL everything" ok that means we will be draining the mens game to fill the gaps as the womans game does not make the money you want....hardly equal is it
     
  19. r-u-s-x

    r-u-s-x Sergei Rebrov

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    I am a lefty liberal type of person and this is one that puzzles me, U17 don't get the same money, veterans don't get the same money, conference level support and conference level cash seems fair. I would open up the mens game to all, not call it mens football but "top football" and they take the best players regardless of sex, if a woman can make it that's equality.

    In reality its a similar sport but not the same, its like Squash players moaning that they should be paid the same as Tennis players.
     
  20. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Mitchell Thomas

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    the easy shut down to this should be that your pay is what the punter is willing to pay to watch. when they can fill 60,000 grounds at £1000 per season they they will be paid tyhey same as those who do.
    it is a bit like busker with a mouthie standing on the high street asking for the same money as bob dylan selling out wembley.
     

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