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FA Cup Semi Final OMT ***Tottenham Hotspur FC v Manchester United***

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by awesome dawson, 19 Apr 2018.

  1. alekaras

    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    For the next 2-3 years it will be like playing at home, assuming this team stays relatively intact. We'd have had the experience of Wembley much more than any other team and feel it as a familiar ground.
     
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  2. alekaras

    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    Exactly. What's the point of crossing if there's no one in the box, or if he's surrounded by 5 opposition players.
     
  3. diego_maradona

    diego_maradona Steffen Iversen Staff Member

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    Really frustrating. We are a better side than United. Of that I have little doubt. But on the day they found a way to nullify us and I was concerned by our naivety in such a big game.
    Difference was probably Herrera scored the exact same chance Eriksen had in the first half.
    If we still had to play them at home in the league I think we would win again.
     
  4. Finney Is Back

    Finney Is Back Jimmy Neighbour

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    Of course it is like turning a tap on. As soon as the stadium is operational we will receive increased money from hospitality - the corporate packages are paid up front not in arrears. Ditto for increased ticket revenue - the ST price has increased and we have added ST holders, this money is all paid up front. Naming rights sponsorship revenue is likely to be spread evenly over the length of any deal, probably paid in advance each season - unless we front load a deal like Arsenal did, which I cannot see us doing as the debt market is very different now (in our favour) to when Arsenal were building the Emirates. our revenue will be significantly higher (anywhere between £60 and £100 million higher IMO) from the very first season that the new stadium is operational. It will not take 4 years to trickle down. Or are you making an assumption that the club will look to pay off the entire debt associated with the stadium within 3 or 4 years? If so then I think your assumption is incorrect. It would make no sense to look to pay off the capital so quickly, especially in a period of low interest rates.
     
  5. StephenH

    StephenH Paul Stewart

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    I am guessing, but in the first few months/years some of the upfront costs will be being paid off at higher rate. This will dissipate as time progresses.
    Capital repayment is a whole different ballgame as you said.
    You may well be right and I like your logic better than mine:)
     
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  6. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Vedran Corluka

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    Quite right. I think from next season we will start acting like a bigger club as it relates to finances, because we will have more predictable revenue. Once that's happened, Levy will raise the level because that's been his rule. We haven't gone through a decade of zero transfer spend in order to take another 5 years to realise the benefits of the stadium. The way we have done it means we will start recognising the benefits (in terms of paying bigger wages) straight way, and I fully expect us to benefit quite quickly.
     
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    Finney Is Back Jimmy Neighbour

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    Our borrowing facility is currently approx £400 million with less than £100 million drawn down, at (something like) between 0.75 and 1% above libor. So I don’t think your guess is correct. Next season we will be able to add £30 to £50 million to our wage bill without altering our low wage to turnover ratio at all, still leaving us significant funds to pay interest and capital costs. The hard years have been these ones where we have been paying for the stadium but not getting any of the financial benefits (hence our zero net spend). Once it is open the extra revenue dwarfs the interest charge on the debt and therefore we can significantly up our wage bill immediately.

    Just to put into perspective the addition of £40 million to our wage bill that is 8 additional £100k a week players in the squad.
     
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  8. StephenH

    StephenH Paul Stewart

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    I will be very happy if you are spot on. And we invest at those levels.
     
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    DubaiSpur Jimmy McCormick

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    But they will never be as familiar with it as they are right now - they play there *every* other week. They know the changing rooms, they make the trip to the stadium every other week, the dimensions are stored in their muscle memory, the sound of the fans there is second nature.

    They know this stadium now to a level that will only ebb with time.

    Didn't change anything, however - they still folded like a pack of cards when a trophy was within sight. Again - imo, it was the easiest chance we'll ever have in a long time, unless by some miracle we only play League Two sides all the way to the final in a future iteration.
     
  10. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Gary Stevens Staff Member

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    Funny, I still felt the CL was our best chance this season and nothing I am seeing in the semis convinces me otherwise. If we'd got past Juve as we should've, I believe we'd have been in the semis ourselves!!!!
     
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    parklane1 David Ginola

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    I hope you are right.
     
  12. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vic Buckingham

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    You mean like arsenal normally do
     
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    Bullet Ian Walker

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    Our easiest chance was League Cup, next easiest was dropping into the Europa League.
     
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    Bullet Ian Walker

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    Man Utd are hard to beat. Mourinho is hard to beat. Though I agree, we really did not play well at all. About as penetrative as a panda, taught by AVB.

    Pool struggle with them massively:

    14 Dec 2014 Manchester United v Liverpool W 3-0 Premier League
    22 Mar 2015 Liverpool v Manchester United W 1-2 Premier League
    12 Sep 2015 Manchester United v Liverpool W 3-1 Premier League
    17 Jan 2016 Liverpool v Manchester United W 0-1 Premier League
    10 Mar 2016 Liverpool v Manchester United L 2-0 UEFA Europa League
    17 Mar 2016 Manchester United v Liverpool D 1-1 UEFA Europa League
    17 Oct 2016 Liverpool v Manchester United D 0-0 Premier League
    15 Jan 2017 Manchester United v Liverpool D 1-1 Premier League
    14 Oct 2017 Liverpool v Manchester United D 0-0 Premier League
    10 Mar 2018 Manchester United v Liverpool W 2-1 Premier League

    City struggle with them, even though they are clearly superior recently:

    12 Apr 2015 Manchester United v Emirates Marketing Project W 4-2 Premier League
    25 Oct 2015 Manchester United v Emirates Marketing Project D 0-0 Premier League
    20 Mar 2016 Emirates Marketing Project v Manchester United W 0-1 Premier League
    10 Sep 2016 Manchester United v Emirates Marketing Project L 1-2 Premier League
    26 Oct 2016 Manchester United v Emirates Marketing Project W 1-0 League Cup
    27 Apr 2017 Emirates Marketing Project v Manchester United D 0-0 Premier League
    10 Dec 2017 Manchester United v Emirates Marketing Project L 1-2 Premier League
    07 Apr 2018 Emirates Marketing Project v Manchester United W 2-3 Premier League

    And yes, Spurs struggle with them but hey, not bad at all actually:

    15 Mar 2015 Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur W 3-0 Premier League
    08 Aug 2015 Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur W 1-0 Premier League
    10 Apr 2016 Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United L 3-0 Premier League
    11 Dec 2016 Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur W 1-0 Premier League
    14 May 2017 Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United L 2-1 Premier League
    28 Oct 2017 Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur W 1-0 Premier League
    31 Jan 2018 Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United L 2-0 Premier League
    21 Apr 2018 Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-1 FA Cup
     

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