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Evan Ndicka

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Bedfordspurs, 25 May 2021.

  1. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Not sure about that. £22m was huge back then - the third biggest signing in our history at that point (after Soldado and Lamela)
     
  2. Gazza

    Gazza Michael Carrick

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    flop is so silly to say after his initial start. he was good but now it’s immense. good to show hope players need time to settle and how quick some (I at times are guilty also) too make stupid judgements
     
  3. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    I don’t think many people made judgements because he didn’t IMO come with much expectation
    Hence him having his worst season in his senior career I believe in his first one he flopped.
    Remember Henderson when he joined pool for big money … he flopped
    Players can have a poor start to joining a club and then excel after settling in. It doesn’t mean their careers have been a flop but in isolation that season was a very very poor one by their own standards
    And those standards are what made a club buy them too
    For context was soldado a flop?
    His first season he got a better return than son did in his first I believe . Slightly different roles of course and the progression with Son has been immense

    And again for context the conversation was about what players settle best joining the prem from a certain league
     
  4. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Michael Carrick

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    Lukaku is the 7th most expensive signing of all time. Son wasn't even in the top 10 signings of 2015.
     
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  5. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    It’s all relative
     
  6. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Michael Carrick

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    Anyway this isn't a son thread. So hincape or Ndicka?
     
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  7. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    Either
    Both could be progressive types and get better here
    Neither would IMO be immediately better than Davies but that’s possibly a good thing as they could settle in
    What I like is the fact that the are not the finished articles. Both on paper seem to have scope to get better and better and that’s the kind of signing we have traditionally had most success with
     
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  8. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Michael Carrick

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    Fair enough. But for centre backs we've done well with bring in fairly experienced. Vertonghen, alderweireld, gallas...
     
  9. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    Actually verts had only really played at one club and was 24 IIRC when we signed him so not at his peak
    Toby had that flop season at Atketico so he wasn’t as desirable as he became here for us
    Galas was experienced but was IMO on his way down
     
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  10. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Michael Carrick

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    They had more experience than Ndicka and hincapie.
     
  11. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    In some aspects for sure
    Both of these have have moved country to play (I think both Toby and Jan came through at Ajax) which means they have already made an overseas move which is important to judge a player on
     
  12. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Michael Carrick

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    I'm not going to judge either of them, i've not seen them play. If conte and paratici think they're ready great.
     
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  13. metalgear

    metalgear Jack Jull

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    Poch used Son more sparingly compared to Kane who was one of the starting eleven no matter what. Poch wasn't fond of player rotation.

    Unlike Conte, who brings players on at the hour mark decisively. With 5 subs the game will favour the coaches with the widest range of tactical changes. I think Conte tinkers a lot with the team and will give more playing time to new joiners. I wonder if Son would have turned out differently if we had Conte then. After all anyone could see he was double footed and already doing great in Germany.

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  14. braineclipse

    braineclipse Gary Stevens

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    That would be my guess too. Not a lot of potential targets that come in and make themselves a clear upgrade on Davies. If we can't get Bastoni/whoever that may do that a player ready to be an option that may step up significantly over a year or two would be a very good plan.

    Haven't seen him play, but from what I've read he seems like he would be a good signing.
     
  15. Robbo

    Robbo Chris Perry

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    Is this now the floppy Ndicka thread?
     
  16. Kandi1977

    Kandi1977 Les Howe

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    Toby competed with arguably the best CB pairing in the world at that time! And he still got quite a few games!
     
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    monkeybarry Chris Perry

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    Pretty sure that's a Rammstein song
     
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  18. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Les Ferdinand

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    Half man half biscuit?
     
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