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Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by markysimmo, 27 Feb 2020.

  1. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Andy Thompson

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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Craig_J Gudni Bergsson

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    I feel like the vaccines aren't at all what they're made out to be.

    90% of people have had one dose
    83% have had two doses
    62% have had a booster

    Covid is still at the highest rate it has ever been and more deaths than ever.

    Maybe you could argue that's just because of Omicron. Either way the cases, deaths and hospitalisations were at a pretty conistent level throughout this entire time anyway.

    If we ever get to the point where 100% have vaccinated, we'll still be no better off then we were before. Especially once more variants emerge.

    Hope all those who blame the unvaxxed for the conitnued pandemic can now realise that it's made no difference and never will.
     
  4. AuroRaman

    AuroRaman Jermaine Jenas

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    Imagine the numbers without the vaccines. That’s why they work.
     
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    monkeybarry Paul Robinson

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    Or imagine the alternative for reducing spread - perpetual lockdown
     
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    LemonadeMoney Les Ferdinand

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    We've got brakes on cars, and there are still deaths on the road!
     
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    johnola Sergei Rebrov

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    Not at all. I will always see the unvaccinated as selfish and socially reckless. The only possible explanation for that approach is that they might achieve some slither of advantage in life by spreading death and disease to those less robust than themselves.
     
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    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    The main thing i don't like about that graphic, is deaths looks horrendous.

    But if you look at them over time and by actual date they died, it gives more context. Screenshot_20220113-164212_Chrome.jpg
     
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  10. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Les Ferdinand

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    Deaths in January are always odd, some are carried over from the end of December and the Christmas period because of the bank holidays.
     
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  11. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Agree. Also incidental deaths are another thing aswell.
     
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    Mikey10 Simon Davies

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    That’ll be a comfort to the families.
     
  13. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Hate to break it to you, but we're all going to die. But first we must live.
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    That must be pretty big. If the criteria is having had Covid in the previous month. And about 1/4 of the population have had Covid in the last month. That's a lot of routine/unrelated deaths that would be counted in with the Covid stats.
     
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  15. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Deaths have always been a dodgy one. Opens up a lot of conspiracy.

    Excess deaths are more a measure. But also have to be spread out over the year.

    We won't know the true cost of the pandemic for a while.
     
  16. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Willie Hall

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    I think it is pretty clear the vaccines have made the difference between hundreds of thousands more people dying and choking up ICUs versus getting covid and seeing it through as a cold. Pretty compelling IMO. Your 'more deaths than ever' comment needs some context; I don't think it stands up to even casual scrutiny.
     
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  17. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    Pretty easy to see. Look at cases v deaths. Yes omicron is milder so the last month hasn't caused as much damage ratio wise. We had the vulnerable vaccinated by march.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
     
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    glasgowspur Les Ferdinand

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    Deaths are a total red herring.
    Not just for covid but in general.
     
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    Lilbaz Justin Edinburgh

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    How'd you mean?

    England it has never been about deaths as such. Just overwhelming the health service. Which would escalate deaths far mor than the virus.
     
  20. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Jimmy Neighbour

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    So as triple vaxxed you are protected against the virus but not the unvaccinated? Ok then
     
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