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Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by markysimmo, 27 Feb 2020.

  1. monkeybarry

    monkeybarry Nick Barmby

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    To be fair, you will always get these kinds of things with any system - even more so one that was put together quickly.
    I'd be more worried about people not being contacted and missed (not saying it's happening - although there will be a few) - multiple contact is a positive.
     
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  2. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Paul Robinson

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    People really do need to understand what @scaramanga points out regarding immunity. I'm surprised this far along this hasn't been communicated or individuals haven't picked up on it themselves.

    Millions have had the infection and you hope the low re-infection rate is because immunity is strong (I think someone linked to research into lasting immunity from SARS)

    Adding to Scaras point about re-infection, we'd need to know the method used to confirm the first infection as some have been noted to be unreliable ie false positive.
     
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  3. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Paul Robinson

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    Flu jabs are created each year with what you c.ould call 'educated guesswork' , trying to predict the prevalent strains. Quite simply an old person might catch a strain that wasn't in that years jab or a new strain that has 'drifted' .

    There is less problem with Covid as the drift is slow and the jab this time round might not need re-doing every year BUT that will depend on the depth of immune response...and only time will tell.
     
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  4. Diamond Lights

    Diamond Lights Richard Gough

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    attending a funeral over Zoom, watching just 2 people allowed to the crematorium to pay respects whilst speaking through full PPE, Mask, Visor... it's not a way to go for anyone. So many people deserve better than to die alone without their loved ones, and then without their loved ones to even grieve appropriately by seeing them off...
     
  5. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Ruel Fox

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  6. djp82

    djp82 Gudni Bergsson

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    This is it , as much as a vaccine roll out is positive. We don’t know if it will be or how effective yet .
     
  7. Hotshot-Tottenham

    Hotshot-Tottenham Mauricio Taricco

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    It’s a reasonable point on the face of it.

    I think a main difference would be that Chinese Americans faced racist abuse in the States after Trump called it that.

    I’d guess the race element between Germans and Brits is largely removed.
     
  8. StephenH

    StephenH Paul Stewart

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    Hotshot-Tottenham Mauricio Taricco

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    I’m sorry to hear that. v tough times.

    May I ask, was this in the UK? Have the funeral rules been changed? It was still 30 people last time I checked.
     
  10. Glenda's Legs

    Glenda's Legs Pat van den Hauwe

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    That's awful.
    I hope your wife is Ok (assuming this was her relative's funeral?).
     
  11. LutonSpurs

    LutonSpurs Eric Dear

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    Sorry @SteveAWOL this is your domain normally mate.
     
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    a spur from swansea Ronnie Rosenthal

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    Do you mind!!! lol....here in Wales im hoping ill get my jab in late February/March,then hopefully the only people allowed at Wembley in April be the ones who've had the jab......kid free final....happy days !!!!
     
  13. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Ruel Fox

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    I hate to be a party-pooper but the vaccine alone has no chance of getting us out of this. And anyone expecting aything approaching normality before midsummer (at the very earliest) is probably going to be very disappointed.
     
  14. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Pat van den Hauwe

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    FIFY. :rolleyes:
     
  15. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    What else is there other than the vaccine?
     
  16. Diamond Lights

    Diamond Lights Richard Gough

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    This was in South Africa. Had COVID not been here we would have 400% flown in. Just a sad state of affairs though, loved ones passing in the hospital on their own.
    Thans Glenda, yes it was. Her cousin has developed pneumonia but now has an ICU bed so fingers crossed can recover, not sure the family can handle something happening to him following her aunt.
     
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  17. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Ruel Fox

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    A functioning test and trace system is still going to be essential. Certainly in the medium term.
     
  18. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    How does that get us out of it?
     
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    Mikey10 Ruel Fox

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    in conjunction with a vaccine, it might.

    There are going to be a lot of people around without vaccinations for a relatively long time. How long does the vaccine last? Who knows. How long does natural immunity last? Who knows? The virus will continue to circulate. There will be outbreaks, and new strains. We will need to contain and squash those outbreaks (a la NZ, China, Taiwan etc) for some time to come, I’d imagine.
     
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  20. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    Track and trace will only delay at best.

    There's absolutely no good reason to think immunity won't be long term or permanent.
     

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