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Christian Eriksen

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by jonathanhotspur, 12 Jun 2021.

  1. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jürgen Klinsmann

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    That’s all that matters
    Italy have different rules on many things but it doesn’t make them wrong or right
    Players play in other leagues and also champions league with the same tech fitted and it’s fine
    My mate literally fits them and he think the gonna get more and more common with the tech around finding possible issues with hearts
     
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  2. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Steve Carr

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    Yeah thats a fair point. I guess I'm putting that under "if the club is happy with it". Can't see Levy taking a risk that would leave us wide open from a financial perspective. So if the medics are happy and Levy/Conte/the club are happy to have him back, that's good enough for me.

    Whatever happens, I hope the guy gets back playing at a good level and stays healthy. It ended badly for him at Spurs and he wasnt putting it in towards the end but he always struck me as a good, genuine person and I'll always be grateful for the 5-6 years where he was a joy to watch.
     
  3. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Surely it's a moral issue, much more than an insurance one?

    It's like sending a racing driver out of the pits after a big crash knowing there's a good chance the roll cage is compromised. It's getting on for corporate manslaughter territory
     
  4. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Steve Carr

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    I think that's where you have to trust the medical people we have. Players play with the type of pacemaker Eriksen has had fitted (think Daley Blind is one) and Eriksen himself clearly thinks he can continue his career. So if the medics say he's good to play, that certainly trumps any concerns you or I might have.
     
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  5. Legohamster

    Legohamster Jimmy McCormick

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    Give him a contact till the summer, even as an impact player for half a season he is better than we have by an absolute mile, just the issue over his fitness.
     
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  6. Glenda's Legs

    Glenda's Legs Steffen Iversen

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    Assuming that the club would do all necessary medical due diligence, that Eriksen is open about the medical advise he has been given (the club would no doubt want to see it themselves), and that both parties follow the advise they receive, then it becomes a risk-based decision. Obviously if the club still had concerns and didn't want to risk Eriksen's health, then it wouldn't happen (and I don't think it will in any case).
     
  7. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Christian Ziege

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    Its a bit like the pich situation for me, I'd live him back, but i don't want to tarnish his name if it all goes pears.
     
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  8. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jürgen Klinsmann

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    You know we put players out to play knowing they have minor injuries or in some cases knowing that they haven’t recovered properly from a previous one
    It’s what happens
     
  9. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    Eriksen signing for Newcastle until the end of the season would be good for both parties?
     
  10. P.D.

    P.D. Vedran Corluka

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    I wouldn't mind having him back, was annoyed when he downed tools but that was a while back now. I'm sure if the medical and contract situation allows it then it's a possibility. Would fill a gaping hole in our midfield.
     
  11. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Steve Carr

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    Did he down tools? Not saying you're wrong, just an honest question.

    Personally, I don't think he was 100% putting it in at the end. Not sure I'd call it downing tools though. I think Mourinho said that what was happening was natural when a player knows he's leaving. It might not even be a conscious decision but if his performance level or focus drops slightly, he's shown up massively at this level. The one performance I most remember, and respect him for strangely, was away to Olympiacos. He was utter dogbrick for 75 mins. One of the worst performances I've seen in a Spurs shirt and he gave the ball away so much that the commentators were commenting on it. Think it was 23 misplaced passes or something. Yet, he continued to show for the ball and tried to get on it. I'd have hauled him off at half time personally but he actually did really well for the last 15 mins. Thought that showed a bit of character.

    When I think "downing tools" I think someone who is deliberately not putting in effort to force a move. I didn't get that with Eriksen at the time although his performance levels dropped hugely and I guess there is a counter argument to what I've just written.
     
  12. Kandi1977

    Kandi1977 Jimmy Cantrell

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    Would love him in the team today. He was always brilliant vs Cheatski.
     
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    Rorschach Tony Galvin

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    I'd love him back frankly, assuming due diligence on the medical side, but honestly, I couldn't see him getting back to the peak levels he has previously performed at. That is quite an ask.
     
  14. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment John Lacy

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    Did he really down tools? Or carry on conscientiously through severe depression that led to total loss of form and eventual collapse futher down the line?

    Too easy to point the finger when we don't know what was really going on with him.
     
  15. FatBloke

    FatBloke Naybet

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    I agree. It just doesn't seem within Eriksen's character to just give up and IIRC he was still putting in the yards (or miles, rather). It just wasn't working for him, like his head wasn't in it.

    That's an interesting take, and not one I've heard much about before. Is it just conjecture, or do you know anything about it?

    Eriksen broke through as a 17yo – by the time he was 18, he was a regular for Ajax and Denmark. He played A LOT of football over the next 10 seasons, much of it as the key midfielder. That's a lot of pressure, with no let-up whatsoever, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was mentally drained. Or worse.
     
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    Spur of the moment John Lacy

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    No it's pure conjecture, based partly on my own experience. I suffered depression decades ago and found myself utterly unable to perform at work but did my best to conceal it from others. When you are depressed the last thing you want is to let it be known, especially if your job is on the line. I don't doubt I came across as a complete arsehole to the rest of the world.
     
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    glasgowspur Christian Ziege

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    I don't think he consciously downed tools.
    I do think though that he had a very definite career/life path, a path that left Tottenham and he mentally checked out. He lost some motivation and his mojo because his life was deviating from his plans, he was struggling to find himself.
    I also think all the changes at the club didn't help him, he always struck me as quite a introvert and a person that needs stability and routine around him.
    Change is good when you are controlling the change, it's bad when you have no control over it.
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    Playing through a thigh strain is a bit different to having to be resuscitated from a heart failure. I think he's in Muamba or Mason territory where you take having a second chance of being alive as your victory.
     
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    Bedfordspurs Jürgen Klinsmann

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    I don’t
    I think he is recognising the technology that will keep him alive if something awful was to happen
     
  20. monkeybarry

    monkeybarry Johnny Morrison

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    It's a tricky one. But ultimately only one he can decide, not any of us.
    As long as he has good people looking out for him and ensuring he has had and constantly gets good advice - medical re; actual heart and mental to ensure he isn't, erm, led by his heart, then he is able to make his own risk assessment from a fully informed place.

    A 6 month contract with 12 month extension option would be smart. Constant monitoring in training and tested in different scenarios to mimmick match day pressure as much as possible.

    The final consideration - what would it be like to play against him? As an opponent you wouldn't want to be the one that did something that caused an issue.
     

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