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**** Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur ****

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by markysimmo, 22 Jan 2022.

  1. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    But he also has been manager to have the best start in club history

    Our season is not gonna be defined by a game against Chelsea IMO

    it will be all the Games against the teams below us first and foremost
     
  2. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Paul Walsh

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    It is an abjectly terrible squad. How many more managers must this lot burn through before people see it?

    In five years, starting with that summer of 2017 where Walker went out and Sanchez and Aurier (among others) came in, we have been declining fast, until now we have a thoroughly mid-table squad.

    Kane is the one player who is at the level of our opponents today - maybe Son on form.

    The rest of this sorry lot would have been subs for us when we were at our pomp in 16-17 and (to a lesser extent) 17-18. Hell, some of them *were* subs - Davies, Dier, Winks, Lucas, Sanchez. That they have become regular starters and (for some) key players is an indictment of how the squad has fallen, not how they have grown - because they have the exact same limitations now that they did then.

    Conte has just come out in his post-match presser and said it again - to be a top team, you need good players. That will take years, according to him.

    This squad is a terrible reminder of how badly wrong this club's transfer policy has been for five years. Fixing it may take another five.
     
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  3. Baleforce

    Baleforce Clive Allen

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    Strength of schedule has played a part in that, we’ve lost to every competent team we’ve faced.

    It’s not Conte’s fault though, the three managers before him were sacked because of player underperformance.
     
  4. Legohamster

    Legohamster Les Ferdinand

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    Yep, we are at the start of off loading the dross.
     
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  5. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Andy Thompson

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    He’s probably still trying to decipher Dele’s half-time analysis!

     
  6. billyiddo

    billyiddo Garth Crooks Staff Member

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    I know it fits the agenda but we're a good bet for finishing top 4 this season - squad can't be that bad
     
  7. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    So we have played 1 competent team in 10 league games
    I’ll take that as it bodes well for the rest of the games we have to play
     
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  8. Baleforce

    Baleforce Clive Allen

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    it’s a poor league, other than City, everyone else is brick
     
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  9. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    The squad is ok
    It’s weak in some areas for contes system of course
    It was perfectly fine on Wednesday with enough in to come back so late despite the team missing a chunk of players (as was there’s)
     
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  10. Baleforce

    Baleforce Clive Allen

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    that’s true, looking at it, we only play one good team between now and the end of the season
     
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  11. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Paul Walsh

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    Squad is that bad. Manager is top class.

    Only reason why we are even in with a shout - it's Conte against Arteta, Moyes and Rangnick for 4th spot.

    Our squad is worse than United's, worse than Arsenal's, maybe on par with West Ham's. Again, players that were bench warmers and strugglers under Poch - Dier, Davies, Winks, Sanchez, Lucas - are now key players. That is not them improving, because nothing about them has changed. That is the squad falling to their level.
     
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  12. Spoonman

    Spoonman Stephen Kelly

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    Agree 100% and would add that Conte is working miracles to get us up the table and has managed to make us effective against most teams but against the very best teams, like Chelsea, his hands are tied.
     
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    Pirate55 The Last Man Standing 17/18

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    Absolutely spot on. They are better both man for man and as a collective. It is men against boys at the moment. We have no power down our spine and are therefore spineless. Totally different from when our big beasts Dembele, Wanyama , Dier, Verts and Toby roamed and dominated the middle of the park. We are a million miles from that now with players like Winks, Davies, Sanchez, PIerre and
    Skipp. We need some real power in those positions.
     
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    billyiddo Garth Crooks Staff Member

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    It is weak in areas and needs strengthening but fudge me the endless melodrama from certain corners is just laughable
     
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    SteveAWOL Andy Thompson

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    Daisuk Jack Jull

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    DubaiSpur Paul Walsh

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    What, from Antonio Conte?

     
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    Bishop Mauricio Taricco

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    It's not player underperformance. They are playing to their true level, it's not a particularly high level.

    Mediocre players will largely give mediocre performances.

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    Bedfordspurs Micky Hazard

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    Kinda scary the flip flopping
     
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    Bishop Mauricio Taricco

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    Or some of us have been consistent and said the squad sucks all the way through.

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