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Cardiff striker's plane goes missing

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Jordinho, 22 Jan 2019.

  1. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    It's not just illegal for the pilot - if someone were providing this flight as a service for someone else, they would also be breaking the law and be liable for losses. That would especially be the case if they turned out to be the beneficial owners of the aircraft.
     
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    Grays_1890 Milija Aleksic

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    There is a high case to answer here on all of it, who booked the plane, who paid for it, who checked the pilot was qualified, was Sala lied to which seems the case he was.

    This will run and run
     
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  3. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Robinson

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    Let me get this right @scaramanga and @Grays_1890 : are you saying that some things seem to suggest like an investigation will unearth some irregularities?
     
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  4. jts1882

    jts1882 Chris Armstrong

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    Emiliano Sala tragedy provides opportune time to investigate dubious trade of agents

    McKay has already denied booking the plane.
     
  5. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Milija Aleksic

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    Its a hugely complex web of issues.
     
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  6. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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  7. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    I'm not saying anything that direct at all. That would leave me and this forum open to all kinds of legal action.
     
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  8. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Colin Calderwood Staff Member

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    I fly on smaller planes/jets fairly regularly. Not on one like that, mind (King Air a few times but still pretty different). The pilot is absolutely in charge, having said that, I don't understand how the player's reps allowed him to take it in the first place. Sad to say too, the player should've refused to fly in it, especially given the fact his heckles had been raised on the first flight. I think several people should hang their heads in eternal shame.
     
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    thfcsteff Colin Calderwood Staff Member

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    Whether he is, or isn't, involved in owning the plane is "almost" secondary. As his "agent", in my personal opinion he should've advised his client to take a safer, more reputable mode of transport. A commercial flight would've been a great start. Perhaps there is a conceivable scenario along these lines: someone fluffs player with the whole "private plane" angle. Player arrives at airport expecting something along the lines of a G4 or 5 and when met with that PoS is too shy to challenge it? This is, obviously, a fictional scenario.
     
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  10. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    They flew him in for the signing in a plane more like one would expect from a private charter.

    The messages between McKay and Sala show that the player expected something similar for this flight,l and needed assurance that this was organised through the same people as the last.
     
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  11. Jordinho

    Jordinho John White Staff Member

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    Given the agents involved, I don't see that happening.
     
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  12. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    It didn't, they were quite open about the fact that the plane was less luxurious than the one they got him when they wanted him to sign
     
  13. Jordinho

    Jordinho John White Staff Member

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    No sentiments, just business, as McKay jr says himself in the emails to the player.
     
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    SteveAWOL John Lacy

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    mudshark Mauricio Taricco

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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    SpurMeUp Chris Perry

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    Flying at night, in cold weather, through a weather front in a single engine plane accross water...won't be doing that mysefl ever. As the pilot asked to descend to a lwer altitude, it seems plausable there was ice forming, which of course can be deadly. Mind you there was no further radio contact? So the aircraft must have gone done rapidly?
     
  18. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    If he were qualified for instrument flights, he'd have just flown at 10-15,000 ft so he could have glided to land under power failure.

    It's nothing to do with the aircraft and everything to do with the pilot's decision making/go fever/getthereitis
     
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    MKSpur Sergei Rebrov

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    thfcsteff Colin Calderwood Staff Member

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    Indeed. Of course, the mystery is why (on seeing that crate) he didn’t say “no thanks, limo to the airport and on a commercial in three hours please!”


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