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Discussion in 'Randomination' started by scaramanga, 4 Jul 2019.

  1. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    I need some help sourcing some car bits and Google has repeatedly failed me. Hoping some of you have better contacts.

    Firstly I need some slightly upgraded brake pads - somewhere between road and track would be good as I still need to use my car day to day. I've tried to buy EBC Yellow but they're out of stock for my ones and don't know when they'll be making more. They need to be compatible with:
    OEM Parts
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    EBC Yellowstuff Brake Pads DP42258R

    I also need a set of road/track tyres but my tyre size is weird. They're 235/50R18 and nobody appears to do track tyres in that size. I've found a set of 234/45/R18 - would they work OK?

    Thanks car people.
     
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    SpurMeUp Chris Perry

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    https://www.oponeo.co.uk/registration-number Probably need to ask a specialist forum if its not stanard.

    Re. the brakes, I would find an independent garage that specialises in your model of motor, and give them a bell. Thanks to the EU :) can also buy things direct from Europe and have them delivered in no time. Your car has Italian heritage?

    I just picked up an old 911. It will be backdated to look like an early 70s 911.
     
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  3. NoLimits01

    NoLimits01 Sean Davis

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    The 45 profile tyre will marginally reduce your top speed but will give a slight improvement in initial turn in and should be more stable mid turn

    You could also try Black Diamond, Brembo Sport or even some Ferodo DS3000 pads
     
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  4. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Thanks for that, unfortunately performance for my size tops out around Pirelli P Zero. That's what I use on the road, but I want something with a bit more trackworthiness.

    I can also buy things from the US and China and have them delivered in no time. Unfortunately the people who make my car will only sell their parts and insist on fitting them themselves. My mechanic (who can't buy the parts either) services my car for about £200-400 depending on what needs doing. The manufacturer wants £1200 for a minor service.

    I don't want to spend a fortune upgrading my car, I just want to get it ready for a track day.

    It has, hence the difficulty in getting parts.

    I like 911s. Never owned one as I like that intangible feeling that a less "perfect" car creates.
     
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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Thanks.

    My car's not in the Black Diamon or Brembo Sport catalogues and Ferodo only make the DS range for my fronts (having no problem at all finding front pads).
     
  6. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    What are your thoughts on just upgrading the front pads? I know it will mess with the bias a little, but I like the rear a little loose anyway. Seeing as most of the braking is on the fronts, it seems sensible.

    As there's no rear pads available anywhere and I'm not planning a full brake upgrade, it looks like fronts only or nothing are my options.
     
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    SpurMeUp Chris Perry

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    On a track I prefer to leave my day to day car (old M3) and get in something more focused. Never wanted a Ferrari, until driving one around Brandshatch!

    Where are you taking her for a spin!?
    Has to be someone in Italy who'll send you the parts. How to track that person down...

    Not sure old 911s are perfect, the one I bought certainally isn't yet, but it feels great to drive. Only driven it twice so still exploring it. The gear box requires some care, the steering is so light when moving and heavy when parking. You feel in touch with the car, no electronic aids, and its a nice place to be. Need to get the cosmetic side sorted - a respary (what colour!?), add chrome trim and a new interior - plus ideally upgrade the dampers and breaks. It has been given a later more powerful 80s engine and gearbox but has the orginal 70s breaks and suspension.
     
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    NoLimits01 Sean Davis

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    Depends on your driving style, the biggest problem will be fade and over heating, both of these can be alleviated by using new pads and even doing a pad change halfway through the day.

    Either way have fun and make sure you have enough rubber left on the tyres to get you home.
     
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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    I'm off to Spa to stick it up Eau Rouge a few times. Booked a day where they open up the track for people who want to drive around a track without hot hatches and the like buzzing around the place.

    I mean perfect in the sense that it technically has very few flaws. I like character in cars even if that means they're not quite as fast around a track.

    The only acceptable colour to respray a car is purple.
     
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    SpurMeUp Chris Perry

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    Awesome. That would scare me. Has to be one of the most iconic tracks.


    It's certainly a characterful car. In 1975 it was orange. But now its a bright blue. And the chances are I'll turn it slate grey - which sounds dull by comparison but it works with the chrome, and a nice interior. Tempted to return it to orange but I had a vision before I bought it which is going to be hard to shake.
     
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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Shouldn't be that scary. I don't have aero so I'll have to lift. Keeping it planted through Eau Rouge - that's another matter!

    Got everything sorted btw. Gonna get new rear OEM pads, new front OEM discs and yellowstuff front pads. I'll have someone flush it with RBF600 before I go.

    Gonna get a set of Nankang NS2Rs to help stick, and if I have time I'll have someone look at tweaking the noisy bit to better suit the track.
     
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    MKSpur Sergei Rebrov

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    NoLimits01 Sean Davis

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    Done a couple of weekends there in a car and a few on bikes and the one place you don’t have to worry about is Eau Rouge as it so bloody scary everyone lifts.
    In my experience most crashes happen between Bruxelles and Stavelot, plus it always seems to rain first in that section.
    One year on the bikes it was brilliant sunshine through Eau Rouge and a hailstorm at Stavelot with lots of crashed bikes.

    Have a great time and if they are open wander down to the rear set of pits, it’s a great place to watch the cars through Eau Rouge
     
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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Is that the F1 pits? They're the ones we're using.

    I've been around the track countless times on a SIM and it's always that section where I carry far too much pace in. The run offs are fairly large around there at least.
     
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    NoLimits01 Sean Davis

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    No these are the old pits, I've never been lucky enough to use the F1 pits.

    Oh, a handy tip is to print off a map of the circuit and stick it on the dash, always handy for a quick reference as it is so big it takes time to learn, you may not need it if you have done lots of laps on the SIM.
     
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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Thanks - when I say a SIM I mean realistic PS4 and Xbox One games, but the physics tend to be quite good, so I know roughly where the braking points are for heavy, unmodified, GT cars.

    What have you been around there in? Anything heavy without aero?
     
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    NoLimits01 Sean Davis

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    A Caterham 7 Zetec track car so not much help really

    Not sure how many track days you have done, so if I’m teaching you how to suck eggs then ignore, but...

    - Build up slowly
    - Every time you come into the pits try to make note of your braking and acceleration points on a circuit map for the key corners
    - If allowed use a track app on your phone to record your laps
    - Make use of any of the drivers employed by the the trackday company to check lines, entry points,etc it’s what they are there for.
    - Always look out for the dingdong heads, every track day has at least one
    - Remember it’s supposed to be fun so have fun
     
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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Sounds like a lot of fun. Always wanted a 7 as a 2nd car but the practicalities of storing and moving it always seemed to be a step too far.

    Thanks for the advice. Done a fair bit of open wheel days and some off road stuff, but never taken my own out.

    Should be reasonably clear of dingdongheads, the day is specifically aimed at people with cars at the higher bhp (before mods) and £ end of the scale. My wife had to speak to those organising the day and go through a mini interview about me and the car before she could book!

    Any advice on track apps? And maybe a more sturdy phone mount!
     
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    NoLimits01 Sean Davis

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    The 7 was awesome, we (it was a joint toy) used to rent a garage and trailer it to track days.

    Can’t really help with the apps, sorry, we had a data logger

    I’ve done a couple of formula ford races back in the day but never had a go at any off road stuff, sounds fun.

    Keep us posted on how you get on
     
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    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Mind sharing a couple of tips?

    I just can't get turn in on Bruxelles without coming off the gas really early like a lift and coast - there has to be a faster way.

    And I can't hook up the second part of Blanchimont flat out. Everything I've read says it should be flat but I have to lift every time or I'm way off onto the run off.
     

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