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Andros Townsend
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Sonny Walters
Briddo1882
Erik Edman
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That Herbert bloke is a prize prick.....he really is a proper knob jockey
That Herbert bloke is a prize prick.....he really is a proper knob jockey
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Sorry dude, just logged off after posting that.
I was sure it used to slowly wave from side to side, maybe it was someone elses similar avatar on another forum.
I'd be cautious about capsules unless pure, if fortified with iron for me they are no-no's (but if anemic or low ferritin then this muddies the waters). I bet they cost about 20-50x the price of unadulterated molasses as well.
Stop being a wuss and eat your molasses by the spoon
Did it ever move???? (it was meant to)
I can't even remember why I chose it
Oh by the way, as you're on the line - Went to Jamaica Plantations in C0ckfosters (where I first met Edgar Davids) and they have Blackstrap Capsules!!! Didn't buy, need to do some research
Sorry dude, just logged off after posting that.
I was sure it used to slowly wave from side to side, maybe it was someone elses similar avatar on another forum.
I'd be cautious about capsules unless pure, if fortified with iron for me they are no-no's (but if anemic or low ferritin then this muddies the waters). I bet they cost about 20-50x the price of unadulterated molasses as well.
Stop being a wuss and eat your molasses by the spoon
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
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It's pathetic!
All of it.
As for Rio Ferdinand situation (which was raised earlier by someone), the reason the guy was booted instead of Terry is that Rio has an unfortunate problem, which is he cannot keep his ****ing mouth shut and thus exerts the sort of disruptive player-power influence that can undermine a dressing room easily. The way in which he played the race card in that specific case was a disgrace, IMHO, to all the players of all ethnicities who have genuinely suffered racism in football. I dislike what I know of Terry immensely, but he does tend to do his dirty laundry away from the gutter press and broad sheets.
As for the 'you haven't been abused' stuff, as someone with a Middle Eastern father, I absolutely took my unfair share of 'sand n****r' as a kid and dealt with it accordingly (this meant, depending on the mouth from which it was shat, I'd either laugh or fight).
It's pathetic!
All of it.
As for Rio Ferdinand situation (which was raised earlier by someone), the reason the guy was booted instead of Terry is that Rio has an unfortunate problem, which is he cannot keep his ****ing mouth shut and thus exerts the sort of disruptive player-power influence that can undermine a dressing room easily. The way in which he played the race card in that specific case was a disgrace, IMHO, to all the players of all ethnicities who have genuinely suffered racism in football. I dislike what I know of Terry immensely, but he does tend to do his dirty laundry away from the gutter press and broad sheets.
As for the 'you haven't been abused' stuff, as someone with a Middle Eastern father, I absolutely took my unfair share of 'sand n****r' as a kid and dealt with it accordingly (this meant, depending on the mouth from which it was shat, I'd either laugh or fight).
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
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Another kick in the ribs from the son of a man who spent the previous week (in a serialized piece from his book) basically telling the FA they got it wrong, chose the wrong man and don't know a good manager, thus a back-handed ****ging of Woy. IMO anyway mate...
Another kick in the ribs from the son of a man who spent the previous week (in a serialized piece from his book) basically telling the FA they got it wrong, chose the wrong man and don't know a good manager, thus a back-handed ****ging of Woy. IMO anyway mate...
Heda SPURSCZ
Steven Caulker
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We delighted to announce that Andros Townsend has signed a new four-year contract with the Club
We delighted to announce that Andros Townsend has signed a new four-year contract with the Club
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
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I think, sadly, you hit the tickle my balls with a feather with the 'centuries' comment a few posts back...it is really, really sad and somewhat pathetic that now people have to be careful both how, and in front of whom, we use the word 'monkey'...I think MOST civilized, intelligent people can tell the difference in contextual use between using that word as a word to describe, well, a monkey, versus using it as a racial slur.
Again, the greatest irony of ALL this is that the most 'monkey' like footballers I have seen are all WHITE!!!!!
For what it's worth, I cannot possibly envision a context in which I would use the word 'monkey' where it could be construed as racist.
I think, sadly, you hit the tickle my balls with a feather with the 'centuries' comment a few posts back...it is really, really sad and somewhat pathetic that now people have to be careful both how, and in front of whom, we use the word 'monkey'...I think MOST civilized, intelligent people can tell the difference in contextual use between using that word as a word to describe, well, a monkey, versus using it as a racial slur.
Again, the greatest irony of ALL this is that the most 'monkey' like footballers I have seen are all WHITE!!!!!
For what it's worth, I cannot possibly envision a context in which I would use the word 'monkey' where it could be construed as racist.
Kingdawson
Banned
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
SteveAWOL
Andy Thompson
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
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Here here!
Happy to have been forced to request a ride on his band-waggon to be fair. Have to say, what an amazing situation for the club. 3 months ago some of us were heartbroken by the Bale move. 100 million quid and an Andros later, Bale cannot get it going in the face of injury and Ronaldo and we are on the cusp of Britian's next explosive superstar talent. What a club!!!!! ;-)
Here here!
Happy to have been forced to request a ride on his band-waggon to be fair. Have to say, what an amazing situation for the club. 3 months ago some of us were heartbroken by the Bale move. 100 million quid and an Andros later, Bale cannot get it going in the face of injury and Ronaldo and we are on the cusp of Britian's next explosive superstar talent. What a club!!!!! ;-)
Hotshot-Tottenham
Dean Richards
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It wasn't a description though, was it? It was a metaphor, no?
It wasn't a description though, was it? It was a metaphor, no?
Hotshot-Tottenham
Dean Richards
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Could it be anything to do with Sickle Cell? That affects black people only doesn't it?
they actually exist.
on a serious note, i agree with you about eh society of black lawyers thing. not their fan at all
actually in Brent council they have something called...black cancer care....now swomething like that makes no sense to me. quite clearly divisive. if there were whites only cancer care people would think we time travelled to the 60s
Could it be anything to do with Sickle Cell? That affects black people only doesn't it?
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
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Exactly. If it was James Milner that had been tearing up the game and Roy wanted to make the point that he should be fed the ball, he could have made the same joke and no one would have thought anything of it. To say he couldn't therefore make the same joke with Andros replacing Milner (when the joke itself has nothing to do with the respective footballers skin colour and is all to do with how well he is performing on the pitch) is utterly pathetic. What a sad world we live in if that is the case.
It was not a description of Townsend. He was not describing Townsend as a monkey. He was describing him as the main threat to the opposition that would allow the team to win the game and qualify for the World Cup.
AS, I don't know what exactly was said. If Roy told the whole joke, and then finished with 'Andros is as important to us as the monkey in that joke, so keep feeding the monkey' then it isn't racist and he has said nothing wrong whatsoever. If Roy told a shortened version of the joke and said 'you know that joke about the monkey going into space? Andros is our monkey, feed the monkey!' it isn't racist and there is nothing wrong with it. If he then repeated 'feed the monkey' to different players that were guilty of not passing Andros the ball enough in the first half, it still isn't racist and there still isn't anything wrong with it.
It is one big nothing story and it ridiculous that it has started so much debate. Of course racism is bad, but I think Colleymore had it right straight away when he said rubbish like this distracts from the real issues. And The Sun are absolute cretins for continuing to try and legitimise the story.
Exactly. If it was James Milner that had been tearing up the game and Roy wanted to make the point that he should be fed the ball, he could have made the same joke and no one would have thought anything of it. To say he couldn't therefore make the same joke with Andros replacing Milner (when the joke itself has nothing to do with the respective footballers skin colour and is all to do with how well he is performing on the pitch) is utterly pathetic. What a sad world we live in if that is the case.
It was not a description of Townsend. He was not describing Townsend as a monkey. He was describing him as the main threat to the opposition that would allow the team to win the game and qualify for the World Cup.
AS, I don't know what exactly was said. If Roy told the whole joke, and then finished with 'Andros is as important to us as the monkey in that joke, so keep feeding the monkey' then it isn't racist and he has said nothing wrong whatsoever. If Roy told a shortened version of the joke and said 'you know that joke about the monkey going into space? Andros is our monkey, feed the monkey!' it isn't racist and there is nothing wrong with it. If he then repeated 'feed the monkey' to different players that were guilty of not passing Andros the ball enough in the first half, it still isn't racist and there still isn't anything wrong with it.
It is one big nothing story and it ridiculous that it has started so much debate. Of course racism is bad, but I think Colleymore had it right straight away when he said rubbish like this distracts from the real issues. And The Sun are absolute cretins for continuing to try and legitimise the story.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
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Area from the serious debate for a second I'm surprised no where else on the internet other than this forum seems to have picked up on the hilarity of that bolded bit.
When I read it I almost couldn't believe it, it's like we are all living in some parody dream world where stuff like this is actually important, and Peter Herbert was the punch line.
Area from the serious debate for a second I'm surprised no where else on the internet other than this forum seems to have picked up on the hilarity of that bolded bit.
When I read it I almost couldn't believe it, it's like we are all living in some parody dream world where stuff like this is actually important, and Peter Herbert was the punch line.
milo
Jack L. Jones
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Footballers who stay with the same club throughout their whole career are very rare. Most up and off if there is a better offer on the table.
That said, 90% of the board will have turned on within the space of a year when teams start to pay him more attention or he hits his first sustained dip in form.
Footballers who stay with the same club throughout their whole career are very rare. Most up and off if there is a better offer on the table.
That said, 90% of the board will have turned on within the space of a year when teams start to pay him more attention or he hits his first sustained dip in form.
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Being slightly pedantic here but I called them stupid or overly sensitive and, IMO, with good reason.
If they've misunderstood a very simple joke with a very simple intent then they've been stupid. I say this with the assumption that the conversation was as reported (I've yet to hear any conflicting views).
If they've understood the joke/intent and still got offended then yes, they are too easily offended. The reason being that the monkey quite clearly isn't even the point of the joke. You could replace NASA with Roscosmos and the monkey with a dog and the joke's still exactly the same.
You could equally tell the same joke in an attempt to get the team to pass the ball to Rooney without it being racist. In that case, are you suggesting we don't allow England's black and mixed race players to be part of some jokes because of their skin colour? I'm not very comfortable with that.
Being slightly pedantic here but I called them stupid or overly sensitive and, IMO, with good reason.
If they've misunderstood a very simple joke with a very simple intent then they've been stupid. I say this with the assumption that the conversation was as reported (I've yet to hear any conflicting views).
If they've understood the joke/intent and still got offended then yes, they are too easily offended. The reason being that the monkey quite clearly isn't even the point of the joke. You could replace NASA with Roscosmos and the monkey with a dog and the joke's still exactly the same.
You could equally tell the same joke in an attempt to get the team to pass the ball to Rooney without it being racist. In that case, are you suggesting we don't allow England's black and mixed race players to be part of some jokes because of their skin colour? I'm not very comfortable with that.
Jurgen the German
David Ginola
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I'd say he was in a pretty damn good negotiating position considering his form this season and especially in the last two England games.
Great news!
I'd say he was in a pretty damn good negotiating position considering his form this season and especially in the last two England games.
Great news!