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.The press seem more interested in the new Liverpool guy, whoever utd are chasing and of cousre arsenals nrxt starlet.
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Emerson Royal
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I don't even go on other spurs forums
.The press seem more interested in the new Liverpool guy, whoever utd are chasing and of cousre arsenals nrxt starlet.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
I think we can keep all three happy for now. I don't think Emerson or Doherty will be of the opinion that they'll be able to move to better or equally good clubs. Spence is still young, as long as he's developing and getting some games he should be OK. Doherty can cover LWB at times.
If Spence steps up properly there may be another conversation to be had for January. If he really underperformed perhaps a loan for him can be considered.
For now having Doherty and Emerson gives us the chance to let Spence settle in. Tried and tested, trusted players can do their thing.
On Emerson. Better, that's good to see. I think he'll keep his place against Chelsea.
Roland Beurre
Peter Taylor
Attracting lots of fans from his own country to the ground a la Son would not hurt either.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Has improved, that's good to see. Still lacking fluidity, but has on a couple of occasions gotten past his man in dangerous areas and gets into decent positions. Forming a decent partnership with Kulusevski.
Still think he's some way off what we actually need for this role. Perisic is class, but he's come in lacking match fitness and proved a real step up compared to all our other wing back options. Early days, blah blah, disclaimer.
That's where the bar is and should be. I continue to have doubts about Royal ever getting to the required attacking level for this role. It's a huge ask. But good to see solid defending and some positive improvements when attacking.
Still think he's some way off what we actually need for this role. Perisic is class, but he's come in lacking match fitness and proved a real step up compared to all our other wing back options. Early days, blah blah, disclaimer.
That's where the bar is and should be. I continue to have doubts about Royal ever getting to the required attacking level for this role. It's a huge ask. But good to see solid defending and some positive improvements when attacking.
mjc23
Terry Fenwick
There were a few times on Saturday where he got the ball and had 30 or 40 yards I front of him where he could drive forward to start the attack and move the team forward but he either doesn't have the pace or the confidence as he always cut back and played a safe pass back to the middle which instantly killed the break opportunity.
Can't fault his defensive ability but given our two midfield players aren't creative, our wing backs our crucial in starting those attacks.
I'm hoping Spence will magically solve the problem.
Can't fault his defensive ability but given our two midfield players aren't creative, our wing backs our crucial in starting those attacks.
I'm hoping Spence will magically solve the problem.
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
He did also have a 50 yard lung busting run he made from our box and he looked up and, not only did he have no one ahead of him because the likes of Son and Kane were strolling but he had no one inside him making an angle for a pass either. He had to go backwards in the end to a bit of groaning.
ricky2tricky4city
Jack Jull
I think we are at maximum Emerson already.
Defensively he is good.
Effort is unquestioned, he has a great engine.
He is good at finding space.
And good at arriving in the box to be a recipient. Both things he has improved.
The one thing he's not great at is with the ball at his feet. His control is good but as you say he's not very fluid (clunky) and tbh that's a stylistic thing, that's just how you are as a player, and that doesn't get changed with coaching.
And being like that leads to delay, and in a flowing attack, forwards making moves etc it's a big negative.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
I think he can take further steps. Decision making, combination play, perhaps be even more of a threat in the box.
I do want our wing backs to have at least one standout attacking quality, crossing, dribbling or finishing/goal scoring. On the right perhaps combination play could also be one of those, with Kulusevski ahead of the RWB, Romero getting forward, that will be useful.
Time will tell, I'm not particularly convinced that he will improve enough, but some chance there. My instinct was that we'd see Doherty back fairly quickly, try to get him back to the form of last season. That hasn't been the case so far, can only assume Conte rates Emerson a fair bit at least. Perhaps thinks there's more coming from him?
ricky2tricky4city
Jack Jull
Good points.
I had the same view as you regarding Doherty
The only thing I can suggest with Doherty is he's holding him back to make sure rehab and fitness is 100%. Conte appears quite focussed on the period we start playing twice a week, and wants as bigger squad available for that time.(he keeps quoting 'stupid risks') It wouldn't surprise me if he's feeling a bit cautious about Perisic after Saturday.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Quite possibly. Impossible to know what goes on with fitness and niggles.
Could also be tactical. Moura vs. Chelsea made some tactical sense. Against Wolves we were defending a one goal lead so not the best circumstances to throw in a wing back lacking match fitness.
Will be interesting to see what happens over the coming matches.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
First half, yes. Second half was different bacon.
Mosquito_Coasting
Young-Pyo Lee
Still have long term doubts about his attacking but to be fair he is squeezing every drop out of his ability at the moment and is class defensively. Can see why Conte seems to love him.
ricky2tricky4city
Jack Jull
Infeed. He's a very popular teammate as well
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Needs to be dropped. He’s not good enough on the ball and that goes against Conte’s tactics, plus means he can’t fully support Kulusevski.
Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a decent defender, he just isnt a good fit for the tactics.
Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a decent defender, he just isnt a good fit for the tactics.
spurspinter1
Paul Stalteri
Like many would, Royal looks a lot better if Romero is on. Tactically I reckon he's a solid fit for Conte's approach away against tough opponents or just games that for going to be proper battles, and has clearly improved as time has gone on. That said, his limitations are somewhat more exposed against "minnow" type teams. Still a very good option to have for someone who initially looked properly out of place post Nuno.
Ideally Spence can the ground running and provide a different kind of threat to Royal / Doherty for the games that they would have ended up seeing a lot of the ball against teams that sit back to cover all bases - The shame is we could do with the Spence from a season or two in the future as he may not be ready just yet.
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
I’m trying to establish what is wrong with our performances this season. We need to really step it up if we are to keep in the top 4 this season with an outside chance to challenge for the league title. We need to ensure that we have the most suited player in each position.
Last match I would have changed the tactics. I would have rested Son, and played with Kulu as a CAM and with Richarlison and Kane as the strikers. I feel as if we do get outnumbered in the centre and with Bissouma making his first start, having an extra man in midfield could have worked better as it was always going to be a battle of a match.
The main problem then is a lack of real attacking width on the right due to Emerson’s skillset being more defensively orientated. The only way around that would have been if Kulusevski came in to the middle without the ball but drifted wide with it. But that would have often left him out of position for counters etc
Emerson is a strong defender but we need attack from that side. I feel it helps us to stretch the game, create bigger gaps in the opponents defence as I’ve seen opponents defend deep against us and narrow and we don’t have a true lock picker creative midfielder. So we need to spread the play to open up the opposition.
My head is bad today so can’t think where I’m going next but if we have a better more attacking right wing back we would be better balanced and more dangerous in attack. The advantage with Emerson, all the above said, is that he helped out defensively when we were without Romero.
Last match I would have changed the tactics. I would have rested Son, and played with Kulu as a CAM and with Richarlison and Kane as the strikers. I feel as if we do get outnumbered in the centre and with Bissouma making his first start, having an extra man in midfield could have worked better as it was always going to be a battle of a match.
The main problem then is a lack of real attacking width on the right due to Emerson’s skillset being more defensively orientated. The only way around that would have been if Kulusevski came in to the middle without the ball but drifted wide with it. But that would have often left him out of position for counters etc
Emerson is a strong defender but we need attack from that side. I feel it helps us to stretch the game, create bigger gaps in the opponents defence as I’ve seen opponents defend deep against us and narrow and we don’t have a true lock picker creative midfielder. So we need to spread the play to open up the opposition.
My head is bad today so can’t think where I’m going next but if we have a better more attacking right wing back we would be better balanced and more dangerous in attack. The advantage with Emerson, all the above said, is that he helped out defensively when we were without Romero.
Jurgen the German
David Ginola
Totally agree. Royal is ideal for games like Emirates Marketing Project away next week, but we need better attacking play against teams that aren’t as good or are more cautious against us. Personally I don’t see what Doherty did wrong other than get injured and we missed him IMO.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Before his injury Doherty was on song, I would have him back above Royal, I would also use Spence at home above him, especially against a Fulham