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Out of curiosity why do you call them jags rather than jabs? I noticed the oman times also calls them jags so not just you.
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
Don’t know, never thought of it. Wonder if its a language thing, jag suits our tongue better? The gutterall g rather than the soft b?
Strange thing the mind.
Cheers. Thought it might have been a specific thing. Like the indians use crore or lakh in numbers.
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
Thinking about it for what i can recall it is mainly jag that is used up here.
Hadn't noticed until you pointed it out.
In which case I'd imagine there's a fairly lucrative market for nasal swabs from those who currently have it.
Fake vaccination passports are going for €100. Although that was before. Guess that will have gone up by now.
Why get a fake one when you can use someone's nasal swab and get a real one?
You just really want someones nasal swab.
Not as in a sudden rush of thousands of patients no but actually looking into it 72% of lung cancer cases are caused by smoking and there's 130 people diagnosed on average every day. So that's 94 people a day getting lung cancer from smoking or about 34K a year. I'd say that's a pretty big strain on the NHS although the taxes should in theory pay for the majority of that.
Source: https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/he...stics-by-cancer-type/lung-cancer#heading-Zero
If it's a choice between locking down everyone and locking down just the unvaccinated. Then yes i support locking down the unvaccinated. Not in the uk though as everyone has been exposed now.
At the end of the day it is their choice if they want to be vaccinated/locked down or not.
Mikey10
Pat van den Hauwe
Be careful with those statistics of how much of the population are vaccinated. 20.4% of the uks population is under 16. Only 13% of s koreas population is under 16.
For the most vulnerable the uk has excellent vaccination rates.
Yes the s koreans had great success with supressing the virus. Their test and trace is excellent while ours is a joke. But at some point they will have to let the virus run through the population. They are fitter than us and the high amount of fish they eat contains vit d so death rates will not be as bad as ours. But they will still have deaths.
Like europe their cases are on the rise at the wrong time of year. Very low and they are disciplined (they have national service) so don't think they'll go into lockdown. But we'll see. Only a few days ago papers were crowing how well spain were doing. Their cases havd doubled in the last week. Although still low.
Really it's just a cover up for a government that has either messed up in their decisions or lost trust with their voters who don't believe the vaccine is safe. We've seen in other countries that have vaccine passes to go to restaurants etc that they have a limited effect. Ultimately it's just too contagious to manage like that.
Limited effect on what though? Germanys deaths are 4 times higher than france at the moment.
There are so many factors at work but one thing we do know is the vaccines work at reducing serious illness and deaths. So you want as many people vaccinated as possible. This will also mean you are less likely to have to go into lockdown again.
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
Yes interesting, and although i understand the relevance of the swipe at the UK government the pop at the US just makes it seem like a political point scoring exercise.
But then when seen who wrote that wasn't surprising.
They've been doing it all through the pandemic. Notice how at the beginning of the pandemic both the guardian and the mirror used the amount of excess deaths to measure how bad the pandemic was in the uk? When this number dropped below the official number (many that died were close to death already) they switched to the number of deaths with covid mentioned on the death certificate (not within 28 days).
They slaughtered them over the decision to make the gap between vaccinations to 3 months. Which was the right decision.
They also slaughtered the decision to remove restrictions in july. Which was also the right decision.
They wanted a zero covid strategy. Which would have left us in an eternal cycle of lockdowns (as china are finding out now). Not because they wanted to save lives, but because it wasn't the strategy the government was using.
The whole herd immunity thing was a joke. The government made it pretty clear what the strategy was day 1. Flatten the curve, protect the nhs.
The government has made monumental mistakes. Keep your criticism to them.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I can't get past the weirdos who call it co-vid. It's clearly cov-id; as in rhymes with Ovid.