Baleforce
Ron Henry
his latest is that he wants to drop a legislative bomb to block it
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European Super League - Dead on arrival
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his latest is that he wants to drop a legislative bomb to block it
Baleforce
Ron Henry
would have been savvier to have that proposal up front imo
elyid
Gerry Armstrong
Yeah it's hideous.
Also the idea "We must immediately stop private businesses doing something we don't like" just makes them look like dictator cnuts.
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
Nah, there was Always going to be outrage, have this up your sleeve as a sop, we listened and made these concessions.
Mr Gogolak
Radek Cerny
That's a cold way of putting things but it's probably true. I'd say that, at heart, they'd do the same thing as Levy did, if they'd been offered the chance. It would make sense for them to break away if they wanted to promote a different, more competitive model but that's a supporter's dream, and an obsolete one, at that. If they were to leave, they'd make the same mistakes again and welcome shady billionaires with open arms, for the same reasons others did before.
So, yes, I think they'll pocket whatever scraps the big six feed them and they'll probably even say 'thanks'. Personally, I find that disgusting but that's the way things are.
Ironically, the game can't even be built back up from the bottom because everyone is glued to their screens these days...
It could easily be weaved in as a compromise, in the same was as the comment about setting up a Women's SL
They should have come up with a more comprehensive plan that entailed a full alternative to Uefa and their club tournaments, that still offered tournaments with qualification via domestic league football - if you take Uefa out of the picture that in itself must make the financial pie bigger as they aren't taking their slice of it, which i assume is pretty hefty.
Although i don't know how you marry that up with the desire for the founder clubs to have their closed shop
No need, that is a UEFA play
Any expansion will affect the revenue of the existing (founding) members, who is going to vote for more games, less money?
The constant expansion and inclusion of non elite teams is what has led us here in the first place
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
No, they are absolutely aligned and when it happens you will say, "oh well, this is how sport is run nowadays" and shrug your shoulders, or say "what can we do about it?" That's what the shifty bastards are like, they do things in slow steady increments, it's the old frog in the boiling water scenario.
Glenda's Legs
Les Ferdinand
All that money and the clubs forgot to pay a lobbyist with friends in high places.
Mate, it's fear mongering
- In the US, the city builds the stadium, does crazy stupid tax breaks/incentives to attract teams
- Lots of those cities do that because they don't have a top 3 (Baseball/NFL/Basketball) franchise
- Easy to move when the asset (stadium) isn't yours
- Also easy to move 2,000 miles and stay within same country/rules/etc
- In Europe the clubs have sunk cost in the stadiums (we have £1B+), every big city has multiple clubs and no one is going to pay for your new place.
balesleftboot
Noé Pamarot
Bet if they were to survey the season ticker holders 90%+ would be against this. This is not about the real match going fans at all.
This is where it will end up and should have been like that from the start, a few league levels including multiple countries and some form of relagation/promotion along with league based qualification and I think most people would probably be happy with that.
why?
- For decades the FA, FIFA, UEFA and local governments have not addressed these issues
Why the expectation of 12 clubs who's biggest crime is "hey we are going to make our own business model" to fix it?
- Here's the thing no one is proposing, you really don't like ESL? instead of threatening them, trying to expel them, let the fans truly vote and not watch/go see it.
Truth, the reason everyone is bricking their pants is they know this is going to work.
Glenda's Legs
Les Ferdinand
Of course it isn't. Two stakeholder groups not involved at all in any discussions : Fans and players.
On R4 this morning they interviewed two people from overseas Liverpool Supporter Clubs. Both were totally in favour of the ESL, they couldn't have been further removed from the anti feeling amongst fans over here. Match-going fans are an irritating necessity for the clubs, or at least for the higher earning PL clubs.
Of course it isn't - trouble is match going fans generate X amount and have a small growth potential, worldwide TV audiences generate far greater than X and have an even greater growth potential, so clubs are obviously going to chase after the latter.
Doesnt that show that this will go through though?
"It's not fair if teams fight at the top and cannot qualify" >>> "show the qualification rules for the other 5 spots and it'll be ok"
....and match going fans will still turn up. Ok. maybe 20% will be turned off, but we have 80k people on the ST wiating list so those seats are easily filled