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Giovani Lo Celso

Did you hear that Real are apparently putting up 5 players for sale including Bale and Isco? Isco all day. Get him in if true. I'd happily swap isco for Eriksen.

Personally I think Isco is considerably over-rated, or at least I've not seen him produce enough consistently to justify the hype. Some might argue that he hasnt been given the opportunity to be the main man in the Real team, but equally he's played enough games for them (184 per Wiki) and clearly hasnt done enough to stamp his authority on the team. He's also 27 - he's not a kid. If he hasnt delivered enough by now, when will he?

I'd prefer Lo Celso over Isco - far more potential
 
Personally I think Isco is considerably over-rated, or at least I've not seen him produce enough consistently to justify the hype. Some might argue that he hasnt been given the opportunity to be the main man in the Real team, but equally he's played enough games for them (184 per Wiki) and clearly hasnt done enough to stamp his authority on the team. He's also 27 - he's not a kid. If he hasnt delivered enough by now, when will he?

I'd prefer Lo Celso over Isco - far more potential

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^That's what this man thinks of the bold text ;)
 
https://sevilla.abc.es/deportes/alf...-betis-escuche-ofertas-181292-1563219491.html

[google translate]

Celso asks Betis to listen to offers
While the expedition of players and technicians of the Betis yesterday finalized their concentration in Montecastillo, Jerez de la Frontera, where Rubi and his team have been in contact for eleven days, in the offices of the Benito Villamarín noble floor, work is still going on so that the reinforcements requested by Joan Francesc Ferrer, «Rubi», to close the campus. But the coach from Barcelona knows first-hand that some sort of output that can be considered undesirable will also be there. It is at this point where the focus is on the Argentine international Giovani Lo Celso, who is still on vacation after participating with his team in the Copa America.

Rubi, in his public appearance yesterday in Montecastillo, said that "you have to try to convince and if not, try to get as much money as possible to bring another footballer. I know exactly who does and who does not intend. We are talking about a case, that maybe the idea of leaving the player is very clear. The rest remains safe ». And he was asked more specifically by the soccer player born in Rosario, on which he replied that "it could be, there are several ... As a coach I am delighted that he could join and we would help him to do what he did last year, which was to play very good football and enjoy ».

ABC de Sevilla has been able to know more details of how Lo Celso's situation is at this moment.Indeed, he has been the only player with a contract in force that today has asked the Betis club to leave, apart from Takashi Inui . It must be made clear that Lo Celso is comfortable in Beti s and comfortable in the city of Seville, but he wishes to continue growing and progressing in his professional career in a club that regularly plays European competitions, mainly in the Champions League .

Once the Betic club has known first hand the future desire of the Rosario player, Betis and Lo Celso have reached a verbal agreement with the conviction on the part of the Verdiblanca entity to accept a sale for not less than a quantity that ronde the 75 million euros. If you do not reach the Betic offices at least bid for that number, it would be necessary to negotiate with the club that comes closest and with the player, or the entity would have to activate the machinery to convince the player that he has to stay in the Betis, if not until the end of the 2019-20 season, until the winter market of the campaign that begins in just over a month. In addition, members of the club who know the player make it clear to this newspaper that it is a boy who by his nature, and always come the case that he had to stay, would not be bad or would declare in absentia and render as the one more until you find an offer that convinces both parties.

So things, the future of Lo Celso in Betis is not that it is an unknown, but today can be said that it is more out than inside, although there is a lot of summer ahead - English teams, such as Tottenham , they have insisted a lot on signing the Argentine; in the Premier, the market closes next August 8 - and anything could still happen with Rosario. One more detail. Rubi, has had time to talk with all the players who have a contract ... Except for Lo Celso. It is the club that is taking the situation of the Argentine international.





So, I think, Lo Celso wants to leave to a CL team. He has agreement with Betis that if a bid comes in for €75m he can go, or else negotiations will be made to see if a deal can be done or he convinced to stay. I think.
 
https://sevilla.abc.es/deportes/alf...-betis-escuche-ofertas-181292-1563219491.html

[google translate]

Celso asks Betis to listen to offers
While the expedition of players and technicians of the Betis yesterday finalized their concentration in Montecastillo, Jerez de la Frontera, where Rubi and his team have been in contact for eleven days, in the offices of the Benito Villamarín noble floor, work is still going on so that the reinforcements requested by Joan Francesc Ferrer, «Rubi», to close the campus. But the coach from Barcelona knows first-hand that some sort of output that can be considered undesirable will also be there. It is at this point where the focus is on the Argentine international Giovani Lo Celso, who is still on vacation after participating with his team in the Copa America.

Rubi, in his public appearance yesterday in Montecastillo, said that "you have to try to convince and if not, try to get as much money as possible to bring another footballer. I know exactly who does and who does not intend. We are talking about a case, that maybe the idea of leaving the player is very clear. The rest remains safe ». And he was asked more specifically by the soccer player born in Rosario, on which he replied that "it could be, there are several ... As a coach I am delighted that he could join and we would help him to do what he did last year, which was to play very good football and enjoy ».

ABC de Sevilla has been able to know more details of how Lo Celso's situation is at this moment.Indeed, he has been the only player with a contract in force that today has asked the Betis club to leave, apart from Takashi Inui . It must be made clear that Lo Celso is comfortable in Beti s and comfortable in the city of Seville, but he wishes to continue growing and progressing in his professional career in a club that regularly plays European competitions, mainly in the Champions League .

Once the Betic club has known first hand the future desire of the Rosario player, Betis and Lo Celso have reached a verbal agreement with the conviction on the part of the Verdiblanca entity to accept a sale for not less than a quantity that ronde the 75 million euros. If you do not reach the Betic offices at least bid for that number, it would be necessary to negotiate with the club that comes closest and with the player, or the entity would have to activate the machinery to convince the player that he has to stay in the Betis, if not until the end of the 2019-20 season, until the winter market of the campaign that begins in just over a month. In addition, members of the club who know the player make it clear to this newspaper that it is a boy who by his nature, and always come the case that he had to stay, would not be bad or would declare in absentia and render as the one more until you find an offer that convinces both parties.

So things, the future of Lo Celso in Betis is not that it is an unknown, but today can be said that it is more out than inside, although there is a lot of summer ahead - English teams, such as Tottenham , they have insisted a lot on signing the Argentine; in the Premier, the market closes next August 8 - and anything could still happen with Rosario. One more detail. Rubi, has had time to talk with all the players who have a contract ... Except for Lo Celso. It is the club that is taking the situation of the Argentine international.





So, I think, Lo Celso wants to leave to a CL team. He has agreement with Betis that if a bid comes in for €75m he can go, or else negotiations will be made to see if a deal can be done or he convinced to stay. I think.
As long as he doesn't force them to "activate the machinery" to convince him...
 
Real Betis have given a clear signal they expect Tottenham Hotspur target Giovani Lo Celso to leave by putting in place a deal to sign Nabil Fekir from Lyon.

Fekir has a year left on his contract and has been keen to leave Lyon, a year after his move to Liverpool collapsed last summer.

Arsenal have been linked with a move for the Frenchman, but with Mesut Ozil on the books have been hamstrung in their efforts.

Fekir has been identified by Betis as the man to come in and replace Lo Celso, for whom the Spanish side have been in talks to conclude a sale agreement with Tottenham.

And in a sign that Betis do expect Lo Celso to move on soon, they have agreed a deal to sign Fekir, according to French broadcaster Canal+.

A broad agreement is in place and Betis have agreed to pay a fee in the region of €22m to €25m for Fekir.

A five-year contract has also been agreed between the player’s representatives and the Spanish club ahead of the move.

However, Betis will need to conclude the sale of Tottenham target Lo Celso to put the finishing touches to their acquisition of Fekir.

And their work to set up the Fekir deal appears to be a clear sign they expect the Argentine to go.



Read more: http://www.insidefutbol.com/2019/07...elso-expected-to-depart/429468/#ixzz5u1TcaoiM


Seems a bit like the NDombele deal, all agreed in principle but didnt go through until Lyon got his replacement in...
 
Express:

Tottenham receive green light to seal Giovani Lo Celso signing, Nabil Fekir holds the key
MAURICIO POCHETTINO is in line to clinch the signing of Giovani Lo Celso as Tottenham prepare to strike in the transfer market for a third time this summer.
By RYAN TAYLOR
PUBLISHED: 09:48, Thu, Jul 18, 2019 | UPDATED: 12:07, Thu, Jul 18, 2019

Spurs first registered their interest in the midfielder back in May in the build up to the Champions League final, keen to build a blueprint for the upcoming season.

Daniel Levy received a list of key targets from Pochettino as part of extensive plans to kickstart a new era at the club after the opening of their new stadium in April.

Lo Celso has been away with Argentina at this summer’s Copa America meaning talks surrounding a potential exit from Real Betis were temporarily put on hold to ensure he was fully focused on international duty.

He is due back in Seville shortly to begin preparations for the upcoming La Liga campaign despite holding talks with the club in which he has informed them he wants to leave.

Now he will be given the green light to do so allowing Tottenham to pounce, as Real Betis close in on his replacement Nabil Fekir.

The Lyon captain is on the verge of a move to the Benito Villamarin Stadium in a deal worth £22.6million according to reports in Spain, that will leave many scratching their heads.

Fekir of course, was on the brink of moving to Liverpool before last year’s World Cup until the switch collapsed at the final hour due to concerns over the reconstruction of his right knee.

The Frenchman had even completed an interview with LFCTV before the Reds decided to walk away from the deal after a medical in Paris.

Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas has been forced to sell Fekir, who has just one year left on his contract and Betis look to have won the race to sign him.

Once completed, the Andalusians will allow Lo Celso to depart, which will be gratefully received by Pochettino who is looking to bring his fellow Sante Fe native to north London before the August 8 deadline.

Betis are believed to have an agreement with the player that means he will be able to leave should his £67m valuation be met.

But they can now be more flexible during negotiations given that they already have his successor lined up in Fekir, who is debatably an upgrade on the 23-year-old.

There is a strong recruitment structure in place at Betis meaning whenever their production line is cherrypicked by bigger clubs in Europe, they do not struggle finding high-grade replacements.

They lost Dani Ceballos to Real Madrid and Fabian Ruiz to Napoli prior to signing Lo Celso from Paris Saint-Germain for £19m, meaning they’re set to net significant profit.

Betis chiefs are mindful that PSG included a 20 per cent sell-on clause in January when Lo Celso’s loan move was made permanent.

Their manager Rubi has indirectly hinted that he is keen to resolve the sale of Lo Celso as soon as possible.

"We all want new faces soon but in the end we also look for the economic benefit and it is not easy," he said.

“I know who does or does not have that intention. We are talking about a case in which the idea is very clear to leave [Lo Celso]. The rest are staying."


https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...l-Fekir-Real-Betis-Mauricio-Pochettino-latest
 
LEVY'S LO OFFER
Giovani Lo Celso ready to snub Man Utd for Tottenham transfer… but Spurs won’t stump up £60m asking price
EXCLUSIVE
  • Charlie Wyett
  • 18 Jul 2019, 13:00
  • Updated: 18 Jul 2019, 13:32
SPURS chairman Daniel Levy is refusing to meet a £60million asking price for Real Betis midfielder Giovani Lo Celso.

The Argentine playmaker has told the Seville-based La Liga club that he wants to join Tottenham even though Manchester United have also shown an interest.

But White Hart Lane chief Levy will not go anywhere near the current asking price.

One option would be to add Erik Lamela into the deal.

Lo Celso, 23, was on loan from PSG at Betis last season and scored 15 times before the club exercised their option for a £20m permanent move.

Even without playing one more game, Lo Celso could be on his way with Betis making a massive profit.

Lo Celso, although also holding an Italian passport, has made 19 appearances for Argentina’s senior team.

Betis are nearing a deal for his replacement, as they close in on the £22.6m signing of Lyon midfielder Nabil Fekir.

The Frenchman, who saw a move to Liverpool collapse last summer, is expected to seal a move to the La Liga side in the coming days.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...-man-utd-tottenham-transfer-60m-asking-price/
 
Here's a question If Betis are happy to sell LoCelso and replace him with Fekir why don't we buy Fekir and save £40m.
 
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