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OMT ***Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Dildo Club***

It is unique with us because we do that more than most. We have two league cups in 25 years and act like we're Billy Big B*llocks, up there with the class of '92 and the other great sides of the game. We are only two years removed from *regularly* f*cking up like this and act like it's ancient history. We were known, throughout football, as the 'Lads, it's Tottenham' side for a goddamn reason - but that's forgotten in the rush to dismiss results like this as a blip and our trophy drought as an irrelevance.

Football remembers winners. We have forgotten that. And all the teams you mentioned have won a lot more than we have, a lot more recently than we have. Given those circumstances, we are unique in believing that we are comparable to other sides in terms of the frequency of our f*ck-ups - we aren't, because we're *remembered* for them, while other teams aren't.
Football doesn't remember league cup winners.

Trust me, I can't tell you anyone who won the last 5 without looking it up, let alone before that.
 
Football doesn't remember league cup winners.

Trust me, I can't tell you anyone who won the last 5 without looking it up, let alone before that.

It remembers that the teams have won *something*, though. Which isn't true for us - we have won nothing for almost a decade now, and were never particularly adept at winning league titles before that. So we are remembered for different reasons.
 
Absolutely pathetic 2nd half. Poch's attitude towards it is bemusing and it will transcend into performances. Unlikely/impossible that would have happened in the league. Winning cups are a good way to get into good habits and we should be trying to start off by winning this one before looking at the league or champions league
 
It remembers that the teams have won *something*, though. Which isn't true for us - we have won nothing for almost a decade now, and were never particularly adept at winning league titles before that. So we are remembered for different reasons.
For the FA Cups and the European Cups we won. Not for the league cup sponsored by whatever a carabo is.
 
Lost tonight, lose against UTD and then Madrid and It's not looking too rosey

Tonight is poor but losing to Utd does not mean the end of the top 4, it's only out 10th game in the league, and losing to Real? Seriously who do you think we areo_O
 
A loss was better than extra time and then Manchester United on saturday morning.

I've seen us win the league cup twice and it's pretty meaningless. Last time our two star players were gone within a few months and the trophy winning manager was sacked a month or so later.

Only 36,000 bothered to go to this. That shows how much we care. Sure it would be nice to win it but it's hard not to be very meh about it. Good luck to West Ham, they always up their game against us and deserve to go through.
 
not for me clive

2nd is straight into the group stage

Of course but on the premise we qualify for the champions league. The point we need to win any cup and qualify for the champions league at the same time constitutes a successful season. I don’t want to look back in a decade and remember we had a fantastic team but nothing to show for it.
 
For the FA Cups and the European Cups we won. Not for the league cup sponsored by whatever a carabo is.

Ah, but people use the exact same approach for the FA Cup as well - and Poch publicly holds the same views. You know this.

We are too good, apparently, to bother with either cup. Remove them from our history, though, and we have five major honors to our name - two of them UEFA Cups, which are also apparently too petty for us to pursue (in their current incarnation, the Europa League). In fact, we would rather go out to Gent in that competition. So, we have three major honours to our name in 135 years - but the European Cup Winner's Cup might also not matter now, since we treat the Europa League with disdain despite the UEFA Cup being the superior honour historically.

So, we have two honours in 135 years in the only competition we think is worth pursuing, apart from the CL (which we have never won). With the last coming fifty-six years ago. Great history to call on. And then we *wonder* why people associate us with Spurs-i-ness more than our history? We f*cking *repudiate* it ourselves with our dismissal of the cups.
 
One of the fallacies of following football, thinking other clubs' fans will remember you for winning this or that and you gaining some sort of bragging rights - it's simply not true. You can always throw it in someone's face "oh yeah, we've won 13 league titles", but who gives a fudge anyway? It's the here and now that counts in football, and it always will be. We've got a great team now - we're playing great football (most of the time anyway), but haven't won anything? Who fudging cares. I'd love for us to win a cup, but other clubs' fans wouldn't give two bricks if we won the Champions League. It's only the fans of the clubs that wins cups that truly care, everyone else forgets a week later.

What people do remember though, is a team that plays good football week in and week out - like we're known for doing these days. Sure, I'd love for us to win something, that would be ace, for our own celebration and well being, but I wouldn't think for a second that other clubs' teams would give two bricks. Why would they? "Oh yeah, you won the league last year, good for you, now it's another season, who cares?".

Chelsea of 2012 will be remembered for "the team that parked the bus to win the CL, boring fudgers, boooo". Tottenham of 2017 will be the team that "won fudge all, but they played some amazing football". But who knows, maybe we'll win something as well. Hopefully we will, if only for ourselves. :D
 
It's not the defeat, it's the manner of the defeat that hurts.
They were rubbish, 2-0 down with less than 45 mins to go and we fudge it up.
Dele and son should stop practising handshakes and start practising passing to each other.
And lock son in a room with a tape of harry losing the ball on the edge of pools box, then chasing back to tackle. Slack.
 
A cup is a cup. I don't care if it's Carabao Cup, the Wife Beaters Cup or the Mickey Mouse Cup - it's about winning trophies and Poch hasn't won any with us yet! Juande Ramos had a shorter stint managing Spurs and has won more cups than Poch!

Tonight's capitulation was an embarrassment. We had Mr.fcking Bean in charge.

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