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Burning a man alive WTF

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This is not an anti religious thing but seriously WTF I may have come late to this as I try very hard to only follow sports news.

Wow what a world we are living in, so disgusted and genuinely a little shaken, bit like when those guys cut the mans head in the street in London. What goes through these peoples head, setting fire to someone.

Really sickened and shocked by that.
 
Same as chucking that elderly guy of a high rise for being gay then because the poor bugger didn't die they stoned him to deaf.

Cannot wait for ISIS to finish of its social cleansing of the middle east so we can just go in and flatten the whole fcuking area.
 
Thing about "the West" we still play by the rules to a certain extent.

I was hoping when they picked on the Japanese that Japan would not take it lying down.

Hopefully they next pick on a Russian or North Korean and those crazy communists can drop some nukes and end this brick.
 
Same as chucking that elderly guy of a high rise for being gay then because the poor bugger didn't die they stoned him to deaf.

Cannot wait for ISIS to finish of its social cleansing of the middle east so we can just go in and flatten the whole fcuking area.
I'm pretty sure the Middle East doesn't have exclusivity on the concept of religious nutjobs.
 
I honestly believe these killings will get more and more barbaric. It's the shock value
 
Lovely people, I'm sure...... Google Jordanian pilot burning, and you you will find the video. I saw it yesterday. It looks like its been semi professionally produced, with multiple camera(s), music overlay and voiceover. What it is, most of all, is horrifying. I have never seen anything so blatantly barbaric, sadistic and brutal. They poor devil dies in utter agony, thats for sure. The people who did this were trying to shock, and they have achieved. Look at the reaction in Jordan.

I cannot see how this ISIS-lot can go on alienating ever-greater parts of the globe with their behaviour, without drastic action in return. Other than a tactical, limited, battlefield nuclear strike (Turkey and Iran are too close) the only way of having a real go at this lot is troops on the ground. Politically sensitive to too many countries? Airstrikes alone won't do it, as proven before.

If a multi-nation attack was launched on the ground, what would happen? We would defeat them, but many would 'melt away' before being caught. Look at how long Suddam Hussein avoided capture.

No doubt many of our home grown ones would clandestinely return to the UK. Still, as long as their human rights and sensitivities havn't been breached, I'm sure thats alright then. If they have been, then Brussels will no doubt get involved.

What we certainly need to do, for starters, IMHO, is a return to the death sentence here for terrorists and traitors. You either are, or you are not British. If you are born here, you are British. If you then go and fight abroad for such a body, you are a traitor to your country. You cannot have it both ways. If the conscience of some people in this country is against the regime here, then go and live elsewhere. Then see how much you will get in human rights.

Troops on the ground? It won't be solved until we do that. It will just get worse.
 
Utterly disgusting.

So was Hiroshima.

Assad also barrel bombed and burnt alive 1000s in syria helping this group to grow in the region.

It is all bad.

I would say videoing it and using it as propoganda by ISIS is marginally worse but all in the same ball park of evilness.
 
Utterly disgusting.

So was Hiroshima.

Assad also barrel bombed and burnt alive 1000s in syria helping this group to grow in the region.

It is all bad.

I would say videoing it and using it as propoganda by ISIS is marginally worse but all in the same ball park of evilness.

Sorry your comparing Hiroshima to burning a guy alive in a cage by ISIS?
 
Sorry your comparing Hiroshima to burning a guy alive in a cage by ISIS?

Is there no parallel to be drawn at all?

My main issue is that levels of outrage at uncivilised middle eastern nutters is sometimes rich coming from western commentators when some heinous sh*t has been done on both sides.
 
Cannot believe your second thought after Utterly disgusting is to try and quantify there actions. fcuked up!
 
Is there no parallel to be drawn at all?

My main issue is that levels of outrage at uncivilised middle eastern nutters is sometimes rich coming from western commentators when some heinous sh*t has been done on both sides.

No there is not, one was a horrible thing that needed doing and saved many hundreds of thousands of lives. One is a pure evil act carried out by religious nut jobs that want to send the world back to the dark ages.
 
No there is not, one was a horrible thing that needed doing and saved many hundreds of thousands of lives. One is a pure evil act carried out by religious nut jobs that want to send the world back to the dark ages.

There can NEVER be a reason to do anything like Hiroshima in my opinion. EVER.
 
Read about it.

I have mate. And I understand the situation. I do see how war has and is necessary on occasion. I know what threat the Japanese posed at that moment. BUT:

Nuking 100'000 people, women and children and elderly, burning them to death in the most painful of manners is something that can't ever be used to stop evil because it is evil itself.
 
I have mate. And I understand the situation. I do see how war has and is necessary on occasion. I know what threat the Japanese posed at that moment. BUT:

Nuking 100'000 people, women and children and elderly, burning them to death in the most painful of manners is something that can't ever be used to stop evil because it is evil itself.
What if doing so reduces the total number of casualties ten-fold?
 
What if doing so reduces the total number of casualties ten-fold?

It may have saved some lives but that is up for question. Please read this - http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html and then tell me if it was OK, if you find the piece to be historically accurate.

Even if it did save a million lives I just cannot accept that civilised society can accept that incinerating 100'000 people, who were largely innocent, at any cost. It is not human.
 
It may have saved some lives but that is up for question. Please read this - http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html and then tell me if it was OK, if you find the piece to be historically accurate.

Even if it did save a million lives I just cannot accept that civilised society can accept that incinerating 100'000 people, who were largely innocent, at any cost. It is not human.
I didn't suggest it did save more lives overall (although I think it probably did). I'm just testing the suggestion that doing so can only be evil and cannot be right by avoiding a worse outcome.

What if killing that many people was the only way to save the human race as a whole? What if they were Arsenal fans? Or gingers?

Out of interest and for a bit of context would you mind answering the following and letting me know your answers?
Trolley problem

Obviously I understand if you don't want to share.
 
I didn't suggest it did save more lives overall (although I think it probably did). I'm just testing the suggestion that doing so can only be evil and cannot be right by avoiding a worse outcome.

What if killing that many people was the only way to save the human race as a whole? What if they were Ar5ena1 fans? Or gingers?

Out of interest and for a bit of context would you mind answering the following and letting me know your answers?
Trolley problem

Obviously I understand if you don't want to share.


Should You Kill the Fat Man? - The Scenarios
Your response that the fat man should be tortured is consistent with your view that torture is not always wrong. It also makes sense in terms of other responses you have given. In particular, on at least one occasion you have responded that it would be right to end the life of one person to save the lives of some other greater number of people. It would be strange then if you did not think it might sometimes be right to torture a person if by doing so it is possible to save all those people whose lives would otherwise be lost in a nuclear explosion.

The above is a brilliant link by the way but cannot compare to killing 100'000 people who the majority are innocent. Who were not a danger. Who were probably part of a test to see what a Nuclear weapon can really do.

Here is a question Scara - You have six 5 year old kids, one will not live beyond 10 years old. The others will not live beyond 6 years old right now. They others have a chance to live a full term if the child with 10 year life expectancy is used to donor body parts which would lead to his death. Do you leave it all alone? Or do you take his body parts as donors? Do you even have the fekin right over what to do with someone elses life because you have decided what the greater good is?
 
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