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***OMT*** Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool
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Sometimes to analyse a statement fully, you have to polarise it and analyse its exact opposite in order to reveal its truth.
So, reversing your post;
Wild, unqualified accusations with no evidential basis, the best friend of AVB's enemies.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
We will pen them back for long periods. That is guaranteed. The problem is
a) finding a way to stop Coutinho getting onto the ball and finding pockets of space that allow him to turn and put a slide-rule pass through our defense,
b) stopping Suarez and the likes of Sterling from running directly at our no-doubt makeshift back-line, and
c) using our inside-forward(s) (especially Chadli, if he plays) to provide height in the box for Walker, Lennon(?) and Rose (?) to target when crossing from the by-line.
If we can do those three things consistently well, a win is almost guaranteed. The second one is probably the most difficult, and will likely require us to tack a midfielder on Suarez at all times to stop him turning towards our high back line with the ball.
Ergo, in view of the above three requirements, my line-up would be:
------------------------------Lloris------------------------------
Walker---------------Dawson---------Chiriches( [-o< ) ------Rose
-------Sandro (to tack on to Suarez)--Capoue (ditto Coutinho)---
Lennon-(out wide)--------Holtby--------Chadli (cut inside)
--------------------------Soldado------------------------------
a) finding a way to stop Coutinho getting onto the ball and finding pockets of space that allow him to turn and put a slide-rule pass through our defense,
b) stopping Suarez and the likes of Sterling from running directly at our no-doubt makeshift back-line, and
c) using our inside-forward(s) (especially Chadli, if he plays) to provide height in the box for Walker, Lennon(?) and Rose (?) to target when crossing from the by-line.
If we can do those three things consistently well, a win is almost guaranteed. The second one is probably the most difficult, and will likely require us to tack a midfielder on Suarez at all times to stop him turning towards our high back line with the ball.
Ergo, in view of the above three requirements, my line-up would be:
------------------------------Lloris------------------------------
Walker---------------Dawson---------Chiriches( [-o< ) ------Rose
-------Sandro (to tack on to Suarez)--Capoue (ditto Coutinho)---
Lennon-(out wide)--------Holtby--------Chadli (cut inside)
--------------------------Soldado------------------------------
No reason? Saudi Sportswashing Machine defeat, West ham defeat both at home coupled with coming up against a team with a striker who single handedly has scored as many goals as our entire team, would have most saying otherwise. Still I'm confident in our teams abilities and think we should be winning this
COYS
NaijaSpurs
Jimmy McCormick
If both players bring their A game Sandro owns Lucas every time
Couldn't agree more.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
No reason we can't be. What you're overlooking is that we usually sit one player deep anyway while allowing the other defensive midfielder license to roam: in this case, they're admittedly both going to sit deep, but Capoue has a fine long pass on him that coul be easily used to spark attacks from that deep zone. Plus, the numerical disadvantage we suffer from telling one of our DMs to sit back is more than compensated for by allowing Rose (if he's fit) to bomb down the wing on the left, giving us both the same number of bodies we had in attack as before and (for probably the first time this season, all things considered) a working system approaching what AVB probably has in mind for the side.
Papercut
Jermaine Jenas
Andros has to start on the left - let them worry about us!
---------------Lloris-----------------
Walker----Capoue--Chiri-------Rose
---------------Sandro-------------
Azza---------Pauli/Holtby-------Andros
-----------Dembele----------------
----------Soldier---------------
---------------Lloris-----------------
Walker----Capoue--Chiri-------Rose
---------------Sandro-------------
Azza---------Pauli/Holtby-------Andros
-----------Dembele----------------
----------Soldier---------------
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
We will win.
Without Gerrard and Sturridge they're average.
Sandro to dominate Suarez in front of the back four/not let him see the ball, Chiriches to cover Suarez capably if he does.
I can see us scoring 3.
The biggest worry for me actually comes from a player like Allen; very important we stop him.
Without Gerrard and Sturridge they're average.
Sandro to dominate Suarez in front of the back four/not let him see the ball, Chiriches to cover Suarez capably if he does.
I can see us scoring 3.
The biggest worry for me actually comes from a player like Allen; very important we stop him.
Robspur12
John Lacy
And what, pray, is wrong with having AVB as Tottenham's manager?
But the obvious weakness when drawing conclusions from stats like this is that they did not all manage the same set of players. Hardly fair for example to compare the team AVB had last year to David Pleat in 2003-2004 when Pleat's midfield consisted of Michael Brown and an ageing Gus Poyet while AVB had dembele and arguably the 3rd best player in the world. I dread to think what AVB's win percentage would be with a central midfield pairing of Zokora and Jenas.
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Nezza
Ben Thatcher
Since there are Spurs fans posting on there with his full name as well, I imagine their board software automatically substitutes when you put AVB.
paxtonwolf
John White
Wow,just noticed that GD stat. +94 for all Premier League matches so far, 87 of those during Harry's reign.
Not seen anyone draw any conclusions from them other than the one thing that's a fact: AVB has the highest win percentage of any Tottenham manager in the PL.
Robspur12
John Lacy
But that is a disingenuous comparison to all the other managers because we are not comparing at the same set of circumstances and the biggest variable namely the quality of the players.
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Why would you want to compare him to Pleat or Gross anyway? The only ones worth comparing to would be Francis, Redknapp and Jol as they were managers in periods of relative success, though Francis is really too long ago, but I think the purpose here is to show that AVB isn't doing a bad job.
Robspur12
John Lacy
My point is it is a silly comparison, let AVB's work speak for itself rather than compare to managers who had poorer resources. It's like saying the man with the more money buys a bigger house than the man with less money that may be a fact but it's what is expected.
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But my point is that nobody is making those comparisons. It's just a list of all Spurs managers since the birth of
Robspur12
John Lacy
Really? I thought that is exactly what the poster is doing by putting up that table. I didn't get the second question at all from his post.