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The Official 2022/23 Premier League Thread

glorygloryeze

glorygloryeze

Ian Walker
So new season's fixtures will be released on Thursday 16th June ....

Who do we think we'll get on first day?

I'll predict we'll get a home game against either Saudi Sportswashing Machine or Man utd...
I also think before the first international break we'll play a home game against either the Goons or Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project will play Liverpool away before the international break too.
 
Can't imagine we'll get a home game on the opening day 2 years in a row. Guessing away at either Liverpool, Saudi Sportswashing Machine or Manure.
 
Hoping we're at home on the second weekend as that happens to coincide with the London craft beer festival. Two days of beer and Spurs on Sunday would be perfect.
 
It’ll be the same as it always is, away at the dippers or city.

We should walk the league next season, everyone else is brick. I fully expect us to Spurs it up again though.
 
glorygloryeze said:
Does the away game at Chelsea work at all? Any friend able to get you a ticket?
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Probably not, but it's no big deal. Would have been cool as the group I usually travel with are more or less all big craft beer enthusiasts.

Delighted that we're at home last round before the world cup though as I'm going to London that weekend anyway to see Porcupine Tree (Friday) and Evanescence (Monday).
 
Jordinho said:
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The lack of quality is a bigger concern than the age of the referees.
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It's not just england. Can't remember which pundit but think it was espn. Might be gab. Covers la liga and serie a, says the criticism of refs is just as bad in those countries. Might be the game is faster now. Or they just want to leave it to var so don't get criticised. Not sure.

Believe they are trialling ai at the world cup for off sides. Might be the beginning of the end for refs.
 
Lilbaz said:
It's not just england. Can't remember which pundit but think it was espn. Might be gab. Covers la liga and serie a, says the criticism of refs is just as bad in those countries. Might be the game is faster now. Or they just want to leave it to var so don't get criticised. Not sure.

Believe they are trialling ai at the world cup for off sides. Might be the beginning of the end for refs.
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They need to let go of the idea that one man should be in charge of everything and avoiding anything that might undermine his "authority". Major overhaul is needed and those in charge could start by looking at the NFL or other sports with more than one on field ref.
 
Jordinho said:
They need to let go of the idea that one man should be in charge of everything and avoiding anything that might undermine his "authority". Major overhaul is needed and those in charge could start by looking at the NFL or other sports with more than one on field ref.
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The experiment with the ref's behind the goals was a good idea - but suffered from that issue of whose call it was.
In netball you have one umpire for each half of the court and their decision is final. Obviously they stay along the sidelines, so football would have the issue of where the ref's starting position would be.
Again in netball, if something happens over the other side of the court from the ref, sometimes you don't get the call - you just accept it as a limitation; they is not such thing as perfect umpiring, only making it as accurate as possible.
 
The 'avoiding anything that might undermine his "authority"' is a problem and perhaps helps attract the wrong sort of referee. Rugby referees don't have this problem and seem to be more respected. The good ones explain what is in doubt and ask the video referee for an answer. There's no show where they trot off to a pitch-side screen to make a decision because it has to be their decision.
 
If the TV shows, pundits and hosts started talking about the actual football events instead of spending 95% of the time on every little referee decision, we would come a long way! If those just focused on the football, not the decisions, you'd for once get a better show, and secondly, people in general would soon be less obsessed with the refs. It's a win - win!
 
Jordinho said:
They need to let go of the idea that one man should be in charge of everything and avoiding anything that might undermine his "authority". Major overhaul is needed and those in charge could start by looking at the NFL or other sports with more than one on field ref.
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When i played in the States they had a ref for each half, at first it was confusing but after time it worked out well. I believe they have got back to one ref now though?.
 
Jordinho said:
They need to let go of the idea that one man should be in charge of everything and avoiding anything that might undermine his "authority". Major overhaul is needed and those in charge could start by looking at the NFL or other sports with more than one on field ref.
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I dont agree I think thats made it worse because as VAR has proved that decisions that are subjective come with a human being making a decision based on their opinion, so does that matter if its the ref or if its 4 men behind a camera?

I think we would have been in a much better situation had we empowered refs with the support that a refs decision is final for better or worse and therefore pushed the idea of respect further. Instead when refs in real time were getting 95% of all decisions right we decided to undermine them with VAR then undermine VAR with more criticism (rightly).

We got this badly wrong in my opinion
 
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