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OMT - Spurs v West Ham

Man of the match

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AjaxDeSuperYids said:
It angers me how long this has been happening for though with seemingly no change.

I can remember one in the 4-4 with the goons about 10 years ago where huddlestone was getting tight to van persie, who then just stuffed his arse into huddlestone and then lobbed himself on the floor.

claming ref just like yesterday immediately and instinctively blew his whistle without any thought whatsoever - goon bastards scored from the resulting free kick too.......
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I remember that one was never a foul. Compounded by the commentators say it was stupid to give it away rather than say it was never a foul in the first place.
 
The fascinating conundrum of yesterday is it was both a freak event, and something quite familiar.

We can be both unlucky, and showing ingrained weaknesses. None of those weaknesses were profound - hence being unlucky - on the whole we’re improved. But a memory of those weaknesses are still there. Mourinho will want nothing more than us keeping clean sheets. There are lots of details to address as we’ve identified, and now a lot of new players to bed in too.

It’s a rollercoaster. The moral of the story is maybe not to believe our own hype, even when 3 up after 16 mins.


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SpurMeUp said:
The fascinating conundrum of yesterday is it was both a freak event, and something quite familiar.

We can be both unlucky, and showing ingrained weaknesses. None of those weaknesses were profound - hence being unlucky - on the whole we’re improved. But a memory of those weaknesses are still there. Mourinho will want nothing more than us keeping clean sheets. There are lots of details to address as we’ve identified, and now a lot of new players to bed in too.

It’s a rollercoaster. The moral of the story is maybe not to believe our own hype, even when 3 up after 16 mins.


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Like sex, football is a game of inches. A couple to the right for Kane, 4 for us, a couple to the right for Lanzini, only 2 for them.
 
SpurMeUp said:
The fascinating conundrum of yesterday is it was both a freak event, and something quite familiar.

We can be both unlucky, and showing ingrained weaknesses. None of those weaknesses were profound - hence being unlucky - on the whole we’re improved. But a memory of those weaknesses are still there. Mourinho will want nothing more than us keeping clean sheets. There are lots of details to address as we’ve identified, and now a lot of new players to bed in too.

It’s a rollercoaster. The moral of the story is maybe not to believe our own hype, even when 3 up after 16 mins.


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Massive freak event - bizzare own goal and then a wonder goal

But when it went 3-1 I did start to get very nervous.

I think I am more on the freaky nature of it -

Just need to go and smash Burnley on Monday.

Also hoping that we are getting all our crappy results out of the way now - go on a run to the end of the season!
 
I am still numbed and disbelieving of what happened yesterday, even though I called each of their three goals just before they scored, each preceded by a sinking feeling of dread that something bad was about to happen.
How we could be so dominant yet capitulate so readily, how we could not either kill off or close out the game, is just unfathomable.
Stupid errors, reckless defending (or lack of) - we should be better than that. I dread set pieces against us.
There were definite sliding doors moments - had either of Kane's shot that hit the post or Bale's golden chance gone in, then at 4-0 I think the wind would have been knocked out of their resurgence and we would have been fine. But it didn't happen and we gifted them the opportunities to to score. That's what hurts. They played well second half, but without our errors in those final 10 minutes they wouldn't have made that comeback.
It's going to take a while to come to terms with this one. If we learn from it then it will at least have served a purpose. But I'm not convinced we won't see us throw away leads again as the season progresses. I hope I am wrong.
I am definitely feeling sorry for myself at the moment.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I am still numbed and disbelieving of what happened yesterday, even though I called each of their three goals just before they scored, each preceded by a sinking feeling of dread that something bad was about to happen.
How we could be so dominant yet capitulate so readily, how we could not either kill off or close out the game, is just unfathomable.
Stupid errors, reckless defending (or lack of) - we should be better than that. I dread set pieces against us.
There were definite sliding doors moments - had either of Kane's shot that hit the post or Bale's golden chance gone in, then at 4-0 I think the wind would have been knocked out of their resurgence and we would have been fine. But it didn't happen and we gifted them the opportunities to to score. That's what hurts. They played well second half, but without our errors in those final 10 minutes they wouldn't have made that comeback.
It's going to take a while to come to terms with this one. If we learn from it then it will at least have served a purpose. But I'm not convinced we won't see us throw away leads again as the season progresses. I hope I am wrong.
I am definitely feeling sorry for myself at the moment.
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I bet your old man is giving you grief as well.:(
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I am still numbed and disbelieving of what happened yesterday, even though I called each of their three goals just before they scored, each preceded by a sinking feeling of dread that something bad was about to happen.
How we could be so dominant yet capitulate so readily, how we could not either kill off or close out the game, is just unfathomable.
Stupid errors, reckless defending (or lack of) - we should be better than that. I dread set pieces against us.
There were definite sliding doors moments - had either of Kane's shot that hit the post or Bale's golden chance gone in, then at 4-0 I think the wind would have been knocked out of their resurgence and we would have been fine. But it didn't happen and we gifted them the opportunities to to score. That's what hurts. They played well second half, but without our errors in those final 10 minutes they wouldn't have made that comeback.
It's going to take a while to come to terms with this one. If we learn from it then it will at least have served a purpose. But I'm not convinced we won't see us throw away leads again as the season progresses. I hope I am wrong.
I am definitely feeling sorry for myself at the moment.
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Just look at this, it might help a bit -
 
Not quite over it but it was still only 2 points dropped at the end of the day. The way it happened was amazingly bad but hey ho. Chelsea drew 3-3 at home v Southampton, panned out differently but the result was the same. I bet they were disappointed too at 2 points dropped in the 90+ minutes.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Eh?..... You can always get your top arm higher when diving. You can get your bottom arm out further but certainly not higher
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The problem was not getting it higher (the crossbar isn't that high to begin with), but getting it more to the left. You can do that better with your left arm when diving to the left. Similar issue with goalkeepers diving more parallel to the goal when a shot comes in from an angle, rather than more perpendicular to the shot. It just doesn't seem right. But as I said, I don't know if that makes much of a difference from a goalkeeping standpoint. Just a layman's observation.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Very good post. I'm usually the first one to criticise Aurier but I thought he was fantastic for 80 mins yesterday and no worse than the others when we started to come apart. The spacegoating of Sanchez is wrong too. Whatever his limitations, the own goal was unlucky. He had to do something or, as you note, it would have been a goal anyway. The real fault was the two lads defending the left side of our box. That was pathetic from them and I hope Jose is replaying it to the squad today.

I'm puzzled by our defending because I never thought I'd see a Mourinho team do what we did yesterday. Towards the end of last season, I thought we looked solid in most games after Sheffield United. For set pieces, we always seemed to have someone in the right place. This season, we've leaked a lot of stupid goals from set pieces and look dodgy time and again. I just don't understand what's changed because this is basic defending.
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Towards the end of last season we had Kane positioned to cut out every near post cross as the first man. Due to our lack of aerial presence he has now been given a central marking position. We desperately need some other aerial presence in our defending . Only Dier is pretty strong in the air. Hope Rodon can give us what we need, but you can clearly see why Mourinho wanted Skinner. We need a warrior in the CB position .
 
billyiddo said:
If you set up to sit back and protect a lead you invite pressure which can lead to mistakes. If you take that approach with several error prone players in the defensive third then you're rolling the dice.
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This is on point. Mourinho will surely learn?
 
thfcsteff said:
This is on point. Mourinho will surely learn?
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Mourinho wanted Skrinar and bought Rondon. He has already identified the problem. We need a warrior at the back. He doesn't need to learn. He just needs time to fix it.

Look at all the teams that have won the PL in recent times. They have had at least one dominating CB - VDV, Kompany, Leicester's twin bulwarks, Terry, etc. Our weakness here is plain for all to see. This is the main reason we keep conceding from crosses where many of our goals against have stemmed from this season.
 
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