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Uighur treatment in China

LutonSpurs said:
So you guys have never heard of Christian African countries that oppress gay people. Fine. Its just Muslims.
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i think everyone is against all demographics that "oppress gay people" - no one has remotely suggested otherwise. however this is a thread of the chinese oppression of uighur muslims, hence why there is a debate on where the chinese government's raison d'etre behind this potentially comes from
 
LutonSpurs said:
Still find it astounding how focused you are on the ills of one faiths followers and able to disregard the ills of followers from all other faith. The machine Islam really has done a job to ensure Muslims are disliked regardless of what they do. It is deeply sad for me.
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Fixed ;)
 
Wilheldiva said:
i think everyone is against all demographics that "oppress gay people" - no one has remotely suggested otherwise. however this is a thread of the chinese oppression of uighur muslims, hence why there is a debate on where the chinese government's raison d'etre behind this potentially comes from
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China's oppression of the Uighur seems driven by religion or is that stating the obvious?
 
Grays_1890 said:
China's oppression of the Uighur seems driven by religion or is that stating the obvious?
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I think there's more to their reasoning than just that.

But I think the world cares less because it's being portrayed as being against a religion rather than against a group of people.
 
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Grays_1890 said:
Of course but there is a distinct difference between pockets of religious hardliners given people a hard time and homosexuality being illegal by law because of religion. The law is there to protect not to oppress. Many African countries use secular law but also islamic law in order to police harder, especially in Nigeria and Western Africa.

Is there not a rapper in Kano who was at risk of execution by the state because of blasphemy, I mean these things cant big ignored when countries are running their law like this because no person is higher than Prophet Mohammed (in their words in this case).

You talk like people are ok with other bad things because they highlight these things, if it makes you feel better I can list every other oppression in the world that upsets me if it makes you feel better and that we are being more balanced for your feelings?
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There are Christian countries in Africa where it is illegal to be gay.
 
Some of which carry the death penalty because of its implementation of the death penalty law...like Northern Nigeria, Mauritania, Somalia, Sudan etc...wonder where they got that law from?

I get your issue though, we can't highlight any issue unless we even it up by highlighting every issue on he planet, then the point becomes relevant shesssh.

Let's not make out that this forum isn't diverse with its bashing of other religions or cultures, it bashes everyone in equal measures.

Additionally I'm non religious, my family are Jewish and I was raised a jew abit like you with Islam but I can take step back and realise our beliefs are far fetched and our oppression of Palestine is wrong for example.

Religion in many regions needs to grow up nd modernise but Islam needs a fast track, the idea that some religions believe that a man had an elephants head but don't have a death penalty for those that don't shows how far behind the curve Islam is. Sorry but that's a fact
 
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Grays_1890 said:
Some of which carry the death penalty because of its implementation of the death penalty law...like Northern Nigeria, Mauritania, Somalia, Sudan etc...wonder where they got that law from?

I get your issue though, we can't highlight any issue unless we even it up by highlighting every issue on he planet, then the point becomes relevant shesssh.

Let's not make out that this forum isn't diverse with its bashing of other religions or cultures, it bashes everyone in equal measures.

Additionally I'm non religious, my family are Jewish and I was raised a jew abit like you with Islam but I can take step back and realise our beliefs are far fetched and our oppression of Palestine is wrong for example.

Religion in many regions needs to grow up nd modernise but Islam needs a fast track, the idea that some religions believe that a man had an elephants head but don't have a death penalty for those that don't shows how far behind the curve Islam is. Sorry but that's a fact
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So Judaism doesn't need fixing but Islam does?
 
LutonSpurs said:
So Judaism doesn't need fixing but Islam does?
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You said that not me I could rant all night how Judaism needs fixing especially the issues in Israel which I will repeat needs fixing. Nothing you could say negatively about Judaism that would offend me because it's your right to critique should you wish.

Thankfully though the archaic ideas of Judaism don't manifest into 2020 where if you got caught kissing your own gender you might have the police turn up. Or if you rap about being a non believe I'm not sure a council of Rabi would call for your execution. Silver linings and all that one less battle for the world
 
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Grays_1890 said:
What would their additional reasoning be?
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I think much of it is just your bog standard ethnic cleansing.

Something we should all be horrified about. Problem is, the edge is taken off because reducing the number of Muslims in the world is an unambiguously good thing. This is just not the way to go about it.
 
So to summarise this thead:

Islam is bad because it doesn't like gays or women but other religions that also do not like gays or women aren't as bad because they're not as bad as Islam.
 
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Diamond Lights said:
So to summarise this thead:

Islam is bad because it doesn't like gays or women but other religions that also do not like gays or women aren't as bad because they're not as bad as Islam.
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All religion is bad. It's a tool to control and oppress the masses for the benefit of the few.
 
Diamond Lights said:
So to summarise this thead:

Islam is bad because it doesn't like gays or women but other religions that also do not like gays or women aren't as bad because they're not as bad as Islam.
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No one has said that, you are twisting it to that to make it seem like an agenda

I wil clear it up for you as you seem to be strugling

Countries that are policed by Islamic law and police the laws such as homosexuality and blaspahmy with a potential death sentance are a huge problem to the world. The fact that law hangs over someones freedom to express they sexuality or belief system should always be questioned.

There is no difference to the threat of prison hanging over you for expressing your doubt in Gods existence than the potential threats to Uighur for living under their belief, it's the same. It is oppresion based on what someone believes or is.

No one is saying all of Islam is a problem, i cleary said it yesterday and say it again. What is being said is that countries that interprets islamic teachings to their law making to oppress homosexuality or human rights are a problem.

This forum is jam packed of attacks on other global regimes and cultures, I see more white America bashing on here than anything so don't act like people don't readress the balance in fairness, people are allowed to talk about set issues in isolation.

Maybe this is why the oppression in these countries still exist as you cleary can't discuss them openly without someone shutting the conversation down with a lie about what's being said or Calling it something it's not
 
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scaramanga said:
All religion is bad, Islam is being discussed because we're discussing Uighur Muslims.
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Exactly there is a Segway

Ultimately I think it's an important debate to have where countries are run based on fundamental religious views rather than democracy. What easier way to control your power than to tell people GHod is watching and should you blasphem you are for it.
 
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