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Victimpool FC - Klopp leaving, grown men crying

markysimmo said:
They have so pulled down Barca's pants there
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Disagree. If Pool value a player at £80m and want a bidding war between top clubs, Barca can no longer participate and drive the price up.

We all know tapping up is constant from other players, agents and clubs
 
Bullet said:
Disagree. If Pool value a player at £80m and want a bidding war between top clubs, Barca can no longer participate and drive the price up.

We all know tapping up is constant from other players, agents and clubs
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thats not even the issue. it pool value a player at 80m, and barca come in for 81m, the player is going for 81m, not 181m.

theres literally no point in that clause whatsoever.
 
Wilheldiva said:
thats not even the issue. it pool value a player at 80m, and barca come in for 81m, the player is going for 81m, not 181m.

theres literally no point in that clause whatsoever.
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Exactly. Let’s say someone wants to take Mignolet off their hands for £10m.

If Barca were interested (lol) and were prepared to offer £12m, are Liverpool really going to invoke that clause and go ‘nah mate, you have to pay £110m or it’s no deal!” :D

Surely the ‘premium’ only applies or is measurable if someone else bids anyway. Otherwise it’s void as no premium can be applied.
 
When did this thread last drop off the first page?

Liverpool need a midfield rethink to help end their continental drift

Liverpool began with the same flat, muscular Milner-Henderson-Wijnaldum axis that has now started all three away defeats in Europe. It is a midfield that looks perfect for last season’s system, the high-pressing, hard-running game that creates chances out of orderly disorder.

Faced with a midfield of greater ball-playing craft, they instead sat deeper and went toe-to-toe in the finer arts, looking at times like a man trying to conduct a concert orchestra with a policeman’s baton. Sometimes you really are better off just hitting someone over the head with it.

“Un Victoire Capitale! PSG s’impose sur Liverpool” was the headline in one Paris daily on Thursday morning . And for all the distracting noises about gamesmanship, PSG did impose themselves in that period when the game was won, Verratti, Neymar, Marquinhos and Ángel Di María dominating the ball and playing in a system that flattered their own best attributes.
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At the end of which £90m has been spent on re-gearing the midfield for this more measured Klopp team, but it still looks more suited to scrapping and covering behind the old tearaway attack. And yes, quite a lot of this comes back to Jordan Henderson, who played as he always does in Paris: wholeheartedly, retaining his intensity to the last, but fraught with the same limitations.

Henderson is a strange player in many ways. He has played 260 games now, been a fixture in the two best Liverpool teams of the last 13 years and been picked and prized by Klopp, Brendan Rodgers, Kenny Dalglish, Gareth Southgate, Roy Hodgson and Fabio Capello. For all that, he remains a player whose qualities are more obvious to those who watch the team from the inside than to those who see just the outline details of match day.
Clearly those managers will also see Henderson’s technical limitations. This is a midfielder with one goal in his last 97 games, despite spending a fair amount of each game around the opposition goal. He seems physically unable to turn with the ball in a tight space, meaning every time he takes it with his back to goal he passes backwards, a powerful contrast with most high-class central midfielders, for whom it is an essential skill to take the ball and turn in one movement.

In Paris Henderson was bypassed repeatedly in the first half by Neymar, the last with a dismissive veering run that just said, yes, I can move that bit quicker than you.

To Henderson’s credit he kept going right to the end, dragging his team along with him, influence growing as time ticked down. But it is not hard to see why Klopp would rather turn the discussion to PSG’s players falling over a lot (which they did) than linger on an unbalanced midfield that seems caught between stick or twist, dogs of the high-press asked to perform a more mannered role against opponents better tailored to the task.
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Some Christmas tidings from ESPN:

Liverpool have announced that Joe Gomez has suffered a fracture to his lower left leg and is set to be sidelined for around six weeks. Gomez was carried off on a stretcher in the first half of Liverpool's 3-1 victory at Burnley on Wednesday night.

"Liverpool can confirm Joe Gomez sustained a fracture to the lower left leg during the 3-1 win at Burnley on Wednesday night," a statement on the club's website said.

"Initial indications suggest the 21-year-old is facing a spell of up to six weeks out of action, though it's dependent on how his treatment and rehabilitation programmes progress."

Gomez went down following a challenge from Burnley's Ben Mee -- one of a number of tackles that left Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp unhappy.

"You get the ball, nice, but it's like bowling because you get the player as well," Klopp said at a news conference after the match. "It happened four or five times, everybody likes it, but Joe is injured, and probably not only a little bit."

Gomez, who operates as a centre-back or right-back, has been one of Liverpool's best performers this season, making 18 appearances in all competitions.

Klopp was moaning all game to the ref about Burnley being a proper Sean Dyche-managed team in their home park. No foul called on the play, nor on any of the other enthusiastic slide tackles on the wet pitch.

E & A-nfield.
 
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Open top bus parade tomorrow.
 
To have only conceded 6 goals in 16 games is pretty phenomenal. 10 clean sheets and they have only conceded 1 goal at most in any other league game.

Their fans are an insufferable cult led by an insufferable, horse-faced, pretend-jovial qunt. But they are a good team with decent squad depth.
 
the dza said:
To have only conceded 6 goals in 16 games is pretty phenomenal. 10 clean sheets and they have only conceded 1 goal at most in any other league game.

Their fans are an insufferable cult led by an insufferable, horse-faced, pretend-jovial qunt. But they are a good team with decent squad depth.
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Duck. ;)
 
the dza said:
To have only conceded 6 goals in 16 games is pretty phenomenal. 10 clean sheets and they have only conceded 1 goal at most in any other league game.

Their fans are an insufferable cult led by an insufferable, horse-faced, pretend-jovial qunt. But they are a good team with decent squad depth.
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Much to my chagrin I have to agree
 
the dza said:
To have only conceded 6 goals in 16 games is pretty phenomenal. 10 clean sheets and they have only conceded 1 goal at most in any other league game.

Their fans are an insufferable cult led by an insufferable, horse-faced, pretend-jovial qunt. But they are a good team with decent squad depth.
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No no no, they are lucky with brick players and and an even worse manager. Every game they win is nothing more than sheer luck.
 
They've spent the money in the right areas. They needed a leader at centre-half with a bit of pace, they went and got one. They needed a decent keeper who could help them play out from the back, they got one. They have spent money on central midfield too, but it's too early to tell if that will work out for them. I'd expect them to spend in that area again if Keita/Fabinho aren't up to it. But they are definitely stronger than they were, as much as I hate to say it.

They ain't light-years infront of us though. They caught us earlier in the season when we were well below par, in top form it'd be a different game imo. We've shown how good our squad depth is with how we have coped with injuries and a ton of games.
 
the dza said:
They've spent the money in the right areas. They needed a leader at centre-half with a bit of pace, they went and got one. They needed a decent keeper who could help them play out from the back, they got one. They have spent money on central midfield too, but it's too early to tell if that will work out for them. I'd expect them to spend in that area again if Keita/Fabinho aren't up to it. But they are definitely stronger than they were, as much as I hate to say it.

They ain't light-years infront of us though. They caught us earlier in the season when we were well below par, in top form it'd be a different game imo. We've shown how good our squad depth is with how we have coped with injuries and a ton of games.
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Keita and Fabinho are probably up to it...just need a little time to settle in and they'll be a great help down the stretch.

I mean we've given some recruits 1 or 2 seasons to settle in, so early to judge.

I also don't really get the ''well Liverpool spent big and backed their manager' crowd.....If we'd sold someone for £140m Poch would get to spend every penny (if he chose too)....it's not like they went full Leeds.
 
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