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Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by diego_maradona, 1 Sep 2013.

  1. scaramanga

    scaramanga Steve Sedgley Staff Member

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    milo Teddy Sheringham Staff Member

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    I can imagine that you couldn't be bothered to go over how he is wrong about Sissoko :D
     
  3. scaramanga

    scaramanga Steve Sedgley Staff Member

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    That wasn't meant as a compliment.

    Apart from the hero hyperbole I'd say that's pretty accurate.
     
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    milo Teddy Sheringham Staff Member

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    I agree. I made the same point at the weekend
     
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    We are Tottenham Neil Sullivan

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    The stats man points out even if we lose Eriksen, Lo Celso would cover his loss and NDombele would cover Dembele's position. Lo Celso and Ndombele won't be playing most games this season. it's all very well players having decent stats that's important but at some point they will get injured and
    we will end up like last season with lack of decent cover!
    That's why we still need Eriksen. The more quality players and depth in the squad the better and that's why the likes of City and chelscum win things!!! Depth of cover..
     
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    We are Tottenham Neil Sullivan

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    "correction" Lo Celso and NDombele will more than likely get injured at some point!
    also I forgot to mention obviously how important rotation is...
     
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    Bullet Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    Someone put this elsewhere, but it deserves to be watched by everyone

    To see how we flick from 4411 to 433 to all sorts of different formations within seconds... one minute Eriksen high, the next defending. Sissoko defending, then pushing high.

     
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    SteveAWOL Jimmy Neighbour

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    SteveAWOL Jimmy Neighbour

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    Bullet Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    Thank you Steve. As usual, that is a really interesting video.

    Did anyone else watch it? No comments.

    If people don't have time to watch the whole thing, watch it for a minute from 3 minutes in. Very interesting how Frankfurt set up their defence, shuffling into a back 4 etc.
    Also watch it for a minute from 7 minutes, very interesting how Lewandowski drops in (like Kane) and allows the "wingers" i.e. Alli, Moura, Son etc to break into space evacuated.
     
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    Bullet Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    THE SISS WONKY

    Just to expand on my post above, I believe we could use a similar ploy to solve our right back problem.

    Remember the wonky with Davids nominally left midfield, tucking in and Lee Young Pyo rampaging up the left side? It gave us overlaps and stretched teams in a strange way, whilst ensuring the right back was not ALSO forwards.
    Remember the wonky with Modric nominally left midfield, tucking in and B Assou Ekotto rampaging up the left side? It gave us overlaps and stretched teams in a strange way, whilst ensuring the right back was not ALSO forwards.

    How about a wonky with Davies staying back with Toby/Jan as a 3, but allowing Sissoko to rampage up and down the right side? Nominally right back but essentially giving us the LYP/BAE surging runs, safe in the knowledge Davies is not also forwards.

    Son would provide the left sided attack (getting him out from under Kane's feet, like against Southampton).
     
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    Cochise Paul Stalteri

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    I think the diamond is kind of meant to be a wonky. Son stays wide quite often whilst Sissoko does sit more often than going forward.
     
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    Bullet Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    The parallelogram of pain.
    The rhombus of rage.
    The quadrilateral of queasiness.
    The rectangle of rectal angst.
    The porous pentagon of poor play.
     
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    mudshark Jermaine Jenas

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    ftfy :)
     
  15. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Jimmy Neighbour

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    For those of you who don’t have BT Sport...

     
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    metalgear Paul Robinson

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    I don't think poch will make it at the top level. I think he is too simple minded and stubborn about playing a system. Bielsa mk ll. Great with younger players and mid table teams.


    Sent from my SM-G975F using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
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    Bullet Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    Against Brighton, Poch sort of played 4231 with Dier and Ndombele in the 2.

    It was actually hard to tell if it was 4231 or 4141 because Ndombele was allowed to roam all over the shop, and Dier also vacated the DM position many times, but I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be 4231.

    As the brains trust* on MotD noted, Ndombele is not a DM and will just go off wandering around the pitch, and Dier was really poor, out of position and out of touch and out of timing.

    Also they* picked out Lamela jogging and walking after 2 minutes, which led to their first goal and Lloris' dislocated elbow. Shameful from Lamela.

    And then they picked out our "walking press" i.e. Son Kane Eriksen all walking or lightly jogging towards the ball carrier, who has ages to pass it to an unmarked team mate.

    That is NOT a press.

    We either press, or we sit back... you can't just walk around and get passed around.
     
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    nayimfromthehalfwayline Nayim

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    I don't know of you were paying attention, but we proved today we can just walk around and get passed around!
     
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    SteveAWOL Jimmy Neighbour

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    Thus far N’dombele looks more like a Pogba style midfielder than a Moussa Dembele but we’re distinctly lacking a Kante who can do the pressing of 2 men by himself.

    No surprise to see that there’s a strong correlation between the increasing number of shots we’re facing per game and the decrease in pressing...

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    Modric THFC Johnny Morrison

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