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wiziwig said:
I wrote...I felt sorry for the girl Heather Heyer who lost her life in the violence of Charlottesville. But there's been an air of inevitability about it all ever since, Trump won the election, mainly due to the unchecked violence of the left. Antifa have been given the go-ahead by the mainstream media who have been whipping up the anti Trump hysteria. Charlottesville is just the beginning and a lot of people are going to die.

You responded with the usual Leftist go to - Hitler! ... You cannot compare 1920s, 1930s Germany to America today. Back then, Germany had lost a war and it's people were being by punished by the punitive Versailles Treaty. Their currency was worthless and starvation were rampant! America today, is still a country where a person making the right choices can better themselves and it has a welfare system for people to fall back on if need be.

There should be no excusing the entitled political violence of the leftist Black Lives Matter and Antifa that we've been seeing in America's cities these past 18 months. The violence has been pushed primarily by leftist academia in the colleges, their indoctrinated students and the Democratic politicians via the MSM and the internet.

Bash a Nazi , bash a Trump supporter, it's is all the same to them.
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You think they're a bigger problem than the white supremacists?

I think the reaction to black lives matter in particular is way over the top. Less familiar with antifa, though I see more problems with their behaviour. Seems like a fairly small portion of BLM actually causing problems. And considering the institutionalized racism still present I really have a hard time blaming that small fraction of a relatively small organization for stepping out of line. Why not blame the racism they're fighting against?
 
the dza said:
I've watched Alex Jones on and off, over the years. He used to be quite entertaining, occasionally even thought provoking. Now he's just in the tank for Trump to sell his pills, looks like a fat coke-head.
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I've only listened to him a couple of times and only since Trump got in (never heard of him before that), but he seems to be plugging his own bizarro products a lot. It's like the shopping channel with added mental.
 
Alex Jones is a chubby faced weirdo, he is getting older but he is still baby faced. I find his appearance very odd, his politics I stopped listening to years ago.
 
I assumed you were talking about Alex Jones off The One Show

I'm thinking "Dang, is she a white supremacist too? She's definitely white, and rich... maybe she was in Charlottesville? Maybe she is too elite to march in Charlotesville, maybe she's the puppet master pulling the strings?"
 
Bullet said:
I assumed you were talking about Alex Jones off The One Show

I'm thinking "Dang, is she a white supremacist too? She's definitely white, and rich... maybe she was in Charlottesville? Maybe she is too elite to march in Charlotesville, maybe she's the puppet master pulling the strings?"
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LOL
 
braineclipse said:
You think they're a bigger problem than the white supremacists?

I think the reaction to black lives matter in particular is way over the top. Less familiar with antifa, though I see more problems with their behaviour. Seems like a fairly small portion of BLM actually causing problems. And considering the institutionalized racism still present I really have a hard time blaming that small fraction of a relatively small organization for stepping out of line. Why not blame the racism they're fighting against?
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The number of white supremacists known to the FBI is 15,000 of which half, are currently serving time in a state prison. They're irrelevant and controlled, merely a boogy man for the powers that be, to spread fear and hate amongst the populace.


Regarding BLM......I see BLM as a negative force for black people and for all of us as a whole. They're promoting victim mentality plantations - it keeps Democrats in their jobs!

BLM does not promote positivity and responsibility for one's own actions, otherwise we would not have seen so much violence and wanton destruction of property in the cities. They're inciting hatred and poisoning the minds of young people with their chanting, "pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon" and "what do we want, dead cops, when do we want it, now" . I'm pretty sure, that the then president, Obama never once publicly called out BLM for their incitement, not even, after the murders of the Cops. No news media furore there, nothing whatsoever. In fact, even after the murders of the cops, Obama invited and held talks with the BLM leaders at the White House!

BLM is a collectivist, hive mentality cult that responds with racism towards any black person that disagrees with their claim, that they're "the voice" of black people.

Antifa and BLM are both fudging useless to everyone but those that want to spread discord.
 
the dza said:
White supremacists. Don't get all Alex Jones on me, you know who the phucking Nazis are.
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Oh I see, you just want to kill the White ones. While we're at it, why not go for all the other supremacists in other racial groups too or are you of the mind that only white people carry supremacist thoughts ?

Then there's the religious fanaticism.. I'd imagine there's plenty of supremacists amongst these in the picture below.

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the dza said:
White supremacists. Don't get all Alex Jones on me, you know who the phucking Nazis are.
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Can you please tell me who is/are, National Socialist Nazis in this video?


And below, is Paul Joseph Watson's Infowars version of the video.
It's actually bang on the money!...Are we the baddies? lol

 
Wiziwig

Two wrongs dont make a right!
You know exactly what people are trying to say reagarding neo nazis.
You are as my mum used to say 'brick stirring'. Which is of course is your democratic right and Ill defend that every time.
Dont though try and attempt to pass it off as balanced and reasoned argument, because you are kidding no one, except 'maybe' yourself.
 
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Wiziwig

Two wrongs dont make a right!
You know exactly what people are trying to say reagarding neo nazis.
You are as my mum used to say 'brick stirring'. Which is of course is your democratic right and Ill defend that every time.
Dont though try and attempt to pass it off as balanced and reasoned argument, because you are are kidding no one, except 'maybe' yourself.
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Don't have a go at the messenger and all that, what have I written that suggests I'm brick stirring? Since when is asking for clarification and some consistency, brick stirring ?
 
wiziwig said:
Don't have a go at the messenger and all that, what have I written that suggests I'm brick stirring? Since when is asking for clarification and some consistency, brick stirring ?
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You need no "clarification" your goading and brick stirring, pure and simply.
You have your views which is fine and others have theirs which is equally fine!

Now back to transfers.
 
@wiziwig

Nazis are white supremacists. I was talking about Nazis. If you want me to say that ISIS types should all be killed as well, then I agree.

The trouble with what you are doing is you are saying "don't worry about the Nazis, what about these guys?"

But I was talking about Nazis. White Supremacists are the scum of the earth. What part of that statement don't you agree with? I'm not talking about equally bricky people, such as ISIS. What is your opinion of White Supremacist Nazis?
 
wiziwig said:
I wrote...I felt sorry for the girl Heather Heyer who lost her life in the violence of Charlottesville. But there's been an air of inevitability about it all ever since, Trump won the election, mainly due to the unchecked violence of the left. Antifa have been given the go-ahead by the mainstream media who have been whipping up the anti Trump hysteria. Charlottesville is just the beginning and a lot of people are going to die.

You responded with the usual Leftist go to - Hitler! ... You cannot compare 1920s, 1930s Germany to America today. Back then, Germany had lost a war and it's people were being by punished by the punitive Versailles Treaty. Their currency was worthless and starvation were rampant! America today, is still a country where a person making the right choices can better themselves and it has a welfare system for people to fall back on if need be.

There should be no excusing the entitled political violence of the leftist Black Lives Matter and Antifa that we've been seeing in America's cities these past 18 months. The violence has been pushed primarily by leftist academia in the colleges, their indoctrinated students and the Democratic politicians via the MSM and the internet.

Bash a Nazi , bash a Trump supporter, it's is all the same to them.
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When judging a person politically I'm minded to imagine which side of the barricades they would be on in Berlin circa 1930. I think I've got you worked out mate.
 
wiziwig said:
The number of white supremacists known to the FBI is 15,000 of which half, are currently serving time in a state prison. They're irrelevant and controlled, merely a boogy man for the powers that be, to spread fear and hate amongst the populace.


Regarding BLM......I see BLM as a negative force for black people and for all of us as a whole. They're promoting victim mentality plantations - it keeps Democrats in their jobs!

BLM does not promote positivity and responsibility for one's own actions, otherwise we would not have seen so much violence and wanton destruction of property in the cities. They're inciting hatred and poisoning the minds of young people with their chanting, "pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon" and "what do we want, dead cops, when do we want it, now" . I'm pretty sure, that the then president, Obama never once publicly called out BLM for their incitement, not even, after the murders of the Cops. No news media furore there, nothing whatsoever. In fact, even after the murders of the cops, Obama invited and held talks with the BLM leaders at the White House!

BLM is a collectivist, hive mentality cult that responds with racism towards any black person that disagrees with their claim, that they're "the voice" of black people.

Antifa and BLM are both fudging useless to everyone but those that want to spread discord.
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Trump just pardoned Arpaio. Do you think he was one of the 15000 white supremacists the FBI know about? What's the difference between him and an out and out white supremacist?

I'd say Arpaio alone has done more to spread discord than BLM.

I'm sure there are people in BLM doing some terrible things. In response to widespread and institutionalized racism that has lasted just about forever. That response is actually quite understandable imo. And not the root cause.
 
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