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Poll: which has been Pochettino's worst managerial mistake to date?

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by glorygloryeze, 10 Oct 2019.

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Which has been Pochettino's biggest managerial mistake so far?

Poll closed 24 Oct 2019.
  1. Not playing Kyle Walker in 2017 FA Cup semi-final before selling him

    5 vote(s)
    8.1%
  2. Writing THAT book...

    12 vote(s)
    19.4%
  3. Not selling Rose within a year of his comments on pay and club ambition in summer 2017

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  4. Asking club to be brave, then signing new 5 year contract before getting no transfers in summer 2018

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  5. Saying Trophies "are just for egos" and "won't change our lives"

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  6. Starting fixture gap 'mind games' (then losing to Burnley after having more days b4 than Burnley...)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Saying he might leave if we win CL (and re-iterating it in tyhe summer after CL final)

    13 vote(s)
    21.0%
  8. Dropping Moura in CL final after his SF heroics

    26 vote(s)
    41.9%
  9. Saying the squad is not the best one he's had

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. StephenH

    StephenH Les Medley

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    Not bloody literally!
     
  2. scaramanga

    scaramanga Steve Sedgley Staff Member

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    It's been great which is why I've not called for him to be improved upon over the last year to 18 months when he's been floundering.

    He needs to turn things around quickly though, my patience is finite.
     
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  3. billyiddo

    billyiddo Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    One year ago we were in the middle of our best ever start to a PL season, which would have been a strange point in time to be calling for the manager to be improved on...
     
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  4. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Chris Armstrong

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    Revisionist flimflam.
     
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  5. StephenH

    StephenH Les Medley

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    But we have not had a good start this season! That’s all that matters.
    I get it, you like the guy. But that’s not relevant, its just about wins and points.
     
  6. Bishop

    Bishop Jamie Redknapp

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    Not addressing the lack of quality in CM much much earlier, I'm talking 2017.
     
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    billyiddo Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    I was responding to a post talking about 12 to18 months ago :confused:
     
  8. StephenH

    StephenH Les Medley

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    Yes, I know. But we are experiencing a downturn now so would it not be a good time "to be calling for the manager to be improved on"?
     
  9. billyiddo

    billyiddo Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    If you want? not sure what that has to do with the post you responded to mate as i was specifically pointing out that 12-18 months ago were in the middle of our best ever start to a PL season and so the idea that someone was at that point having to be patient with a "floundering" Pochettino is nonsensical
     
  10. StephenH

    StephenH Les Medley

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    Yes, I agree re: 18 months ago.
    But you have been saying in the last weeks 'give him time' or words to that effect. But when is enough, enough? How many more poor results do we need in your eyes?
    I'm not sure how many 'Brighton's' constitute the end of the road?
     
  11. billyiddo

    billyiddo Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    Had this discussion with Nayim yesterday in the MoPo thread mate - im happy to give him the next two transfer windows and in to next season to see through the much delayed squad transition - unless relegation becomes a possibility or a genuine squad mutiny takes place he deserves our backing afaic
     
  12. StephenH

    StephenH Les Medley

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    Two windows is a long time but I respect you patience.
     
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    glasgowspur Alf Ramsey

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    So you would agree it was a long time to not sign any players and for that not to have any consequences.
     
  14. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Nayim

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    What consequences? This confuses me.

    Seems that people think players will get bored without new blood, and this is irrecoverable?
    That players suddenly get old, and its irrecoverable?
    That not buying for a year somehow dictates regression?

    Genuinely, Im yet to understand what the problem really is with that year of not buying.

    We have a core group that has been together the whole time, its hardly like they have had a great deal of rotation or even competition (considering Poch plays his favourites) over the last 3 or 4 years. Why is the last year such a big deal?
     
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    glasgowspur Alf Ramsey

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    If you can find a way to recover from old age please let me know :)
     
  16. StephenH

    StephenH Les Medley

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    Poch has largely gone along with the club policy without having much of a moan! This is largely a problem of his own making as he has not made more noise and made Levy realise ‘in public’ he is not staying unless etc etc......
    If Poch feels the club have done their utmost then I’m lost for an answer or solution.
    We are where we are and Poch will have to the best of a poor situation!
     
  17. billyiddo

    billyiddo Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    Im not sure you can knock the manager for going along with club policy on transfers whilst a stadium is being built and impacting our strength in the market - are you guys now in a position where you are complaining that our manager didn't rock the boat and put public pressure on the club to strain itself financially at a critical point in it's history? Because you're beyond reasoning with if so
     
  18. StephenH

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    It’s a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation from a signing stand point.
    I still think the drop off performance wise is a big worry for me.
    We will see!
    I change my mind on whole thing every few hours!
    Pochettino must be not be allowed to flounder for two long.
    2 windows is too long for me!
     
  19. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Nayim

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    Alderweireld is the only one who apparently became an old man over the summer.

    And if that is the case, play someone else with legs.

    As I said, yet to actually hear an actual, tangible, explanation of these "consequences" that explains the issues we have today.
     
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    billyiddo Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    Be interesting to see if anyone could offer up a team/club as a case study, that have been through similar circumstances with regards to us with regards to lack of incoming players for several windows and also keeping such a large core of first XI players together for so long with little to no genuine competition for places. My guess would be that our situation atm is rather unique at the top level and the reason for that is clubs want to avoid the malaise we are currently experiencing.

    Unless you can prove that players form/work rate/desire etc etc won't eventually drop off if they are left in the same unchanged enviroment for so long then what we are currently seeing with our group is an example of what happens when you do just that.
     
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