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Politics, politics, politics part deux

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by SpurMeUp, 19 Feb 2019.

  1. ShipOfTheseus

    ShipOfTheseus Steve Hodge

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    If you add the nationalists, CUK and discount lab and con, it’s quite clear that remain parties are ahead.
     
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  2. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Edgar Davids

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    Not 52% versus 48% by any chance ;)
     
  3. the dza

    the dza Christian Ziege

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    Add in Ukip, that cancels out CUK. (both on 3% I think). Nationalist Parties then put remain infront, but then it depends on how the Con and Lab voters divvy up between leave and remain (I don't think you can discount them, they'd be voting in a 2nd ref).

    With eveything so close between the 2 polarised sides, I don't see how a 2nd referendum solves the problem. A narrow win for either side seems likely and leaves us in the same sh1t.
     
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  4. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Edgar Davids

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    I said earlier....every inbetween 'solution' leaves us in the same sh.it. We are at an impasse.

    The only solutions are to forget about it or go balls deep and leave with no deal. BUT even then the house may not support either route.

    Hey..I'm arguing against myself.:)
     
  5. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Edgar Davids

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    Stack of greens across Europe being elected.
     
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  6. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover Ian Walker

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    The house does not get a say if the PM uses executive authority.

    Sack the useless Cnuck at the bank of England the day before and use all the money on the pound dropping(short term thing) then spend the profits getting rid of student debt and Boris would walk the next election if the student vote disappeared.

    He has neither the intelligence or the balls to do it.

    In my government he would be foreign secretary, Corbyn would be transport minister, priti patel chancellor as I would want her next door for a late night booty call.

    Ken Clarke would be minister for sewers where he belongs and Lucas would be told to get the fcuk out of my adopted town, maybe minister for the Falklands.

    Would find positions for Frank field and Kate Hoey. Like both of them a lot. Gutterboy would be my special adviser.
     
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  7. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Jimmy McCormick

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    What is the message from the EU election? The Brexit Party will spin their result as a massive mandate. But is it? Appx a third of the nation voted. My guess is a large amount of hardened Leavers voted, I'm not so sure so many Remainers put their weight behind Lib Dems or Greens. Polling on Brexit itself says 56 remain to 44 leave. And if you take Liberals + Green + SNP all explicitly Remain parties, there is a majority. So how successful has the Brexit Party actually been?

    What is clear is people are voting on Brexit itself. How could we possibly not have a referendum now?

    A question for those who voted The Brexit Party, was your vote a vote for a No Deal exit?
     
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  8. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    I hope he stands as my MP in 2022. I think he'd walk it after the omara debarcle
     
  9. Rorschach

    Rorschach Steve Sedgley

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    Fantastic news.
     
  10. Notmegov

    Notmegov Mido

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    40.4 % pro staying against 34% leaving.
     
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    Notmegov Mido

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  12. AuroRaman

    AuroRaman Jonathan Woodgate

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    Are these elections as insignificant as the turn-out suggests?


    Sitting on my porcelain throne using Tapatalk
     
  13. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Niko Kranjcar

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    So The Brexit Party got 31% of the votes of the 36% who could be arsed to vote.

    I’m no mathematical expert but that seems like fudge all to me.
     
  14. scaramanga

    scaramanga Steve Sedgley Staff Member

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    ...makes it a very good time to be leaving
     
  15. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    And 64% didn't vote because of the contempt they hold the EU in
     
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    ricky2tricky4city Edgar Davids

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    And when you ask the 25% who voted Tory or Labour are they in or out? you'd most likely end up somewhere close to where we've always been ....ie a divided nation.
     
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    Rorschach Steve Sedgley

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    Rather apathy and ignorance.
     
  18. galeforce

    galeforce Teddy Sheringham

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    Yes, that’s the most logical conclusion, despite there being a party to vote for literally called the Brexit party.
     
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  19. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    If you add Tottenham, Chelsea and arsenal together, it's quite clear that London won the EPL this season
     
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  20. scaramanga

    scaramanga Steve Sedgley Staff Member

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    Essentially, yes.

    We vote for a party but it chooses the MPs it seats. We have no recourse over the MPs because they represent massive regions (the whole of the South East, in my case) and various parties represent the same areas.

    Those MPs then go and form alliances that we didn't choose, making compromises that we didn't want, and lose the bureaucratic battle to MEPs voted in from elections we couldn't take part in.

    Then we do what Germany wants.
     

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