1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Thanks, scara
    Dismiss Notice

Politics, politics, politics (is it done yet?)

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by SpurMeUp, 19 Feb 2019.

  1. Legohamster

    Legohamster Paul Stalteri

    Joined:
    15 Nov 2014
    Messages:
    7,294
    Likes Received:
    4,267
    More or less than Labour hate jews?
     
  2. Gilzeantoscore

    Gilzeantoscore Gerry Armstrong

    Joined:
    15 Jan 2012
    Messages:
    4,300
    Likes Received:
    1,359

    brick mate, you really are Kool Aid drinker. You have taken an almighty swig.
     
  3. Rorschach

    Rorschach Terry Dyson

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2012
    Messages:
    24,381
    Likes Received:
    12,991
    Location:
    ...here
    I don't think it is that clear still. Yesterday's vote was still a mash up of the referendum, brexit attrition, whose leader is the biggest ********, and to much lesser extent policies. The Trumpian like shenanigans in the run-up just added to the mess. I would have been curious to see what the outcome of another referendum without all the other baggage but I guess we'll never know that now. Putin is on some winning streak.
     
  4. Legohamster

    Legohamster Paul Stalteri

    Joined:
    15 Nov 2014
    Messages:
    7,294
    Likes Received:
    4,267
    How much of the Kool Aid has Luciana Berger etc taken?
     
  5. JerusalemMan

    JerusalemMan Milija Aleksic

    Joined:
    6 Aug 2012
    Messages:
    4,482
    Likes Received:
    3,257
    Labour learning or doubling down.

    I saw Alan Johnson go after Lansman ferociously last night in view of what was happening.
    He was livid.
     
    scaramanga likes this.
  6. Legohamster

    Legohamster Paul Stalteri

    Joined:
    15 Nov 2014
    Messages:
    7,294
    Likes Received:
    4,267
  7. Gilzeantoscore

    Gilzeantoscore Gerry Armstrong

    Joined:
    15 Jan 2012
    Messages:
    4,300
    Likes Received:
    1,359

    She despises Corbyn because she is a right winger and because of his postion on Israel. Berger should never have been in the Labour Party to begin with. She would be a natural fit in the small moderate wing of the conservatives. Don't forget, she was never pre selected for Wavertree. Blair had her parachuted in. How good is she? Couldn't even get elected in Finchley, where there is a big Jewish vote. Clearly they didn't think much of her either.
     
    StephenH likes this.
  8. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Andy Thompson

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2012
    Messages:
    16,606
    Likes Received:
    11,158
    Location:
    lobbing seaman from 50 yards
    Johnson was right. Momentum are poison.

    A bit like Scara alluded to - if Corbyn stays around long enough to choose his successor I think its bad news.

    Im hoping the leadership candidates start moving now and make sure that doesnt happen.

    If they are honest with themselves, the conclusions are obvious and undeniable. If they want power (which they do) then they should adjust accordingly.

    But, of course, who knows which way it will swing? Itll be a very interesting time to follow them, and IMHO will also have big consequences going forward.
     
    StephenH, treepits and Parklaner81 like this.
  9. wiziwig

    wiziwig Neil Ruddock

    Joined:
    23 May 2014
    Messages:
    1,863
    Likes Received:
    824
    Location:
    The corner flag near to a cliff edge
    [​IMG]

    Corbyn's Labour, are viewed as anti democratic cultural Marxists - the INGSOC of our times ...

    Pro Tax, child like economic planning..

    Pro minority groups (BAME, Islam, LGBGT, Gender) whilst continually pointing an accusing finger at the 'racist far right' white man ...This is all good in the cities with their highly populated immigrant areas but there's a country out there!

    Gammon hate filled lefties....Emily Thornberry, David Lammy, Diane Abbott, Jess Phillips and many others.

    The Gammon have spoke!
     
  10. JerusalemMan

    JerusalemMan Milija Aleksic

    Joined:
    6 Aug 2012
    Messages:
    4,482
    Likes Received:
    3,257
    None of the MPs who jumped ship mid-Parliament to other parties or to become independent have kept their seat. Not even the great hope Chuka.

    As an aside, I enjoyed dipping into Sky News' coverage sometimes last night to watch John Bercow squirming as he was forced to commentate for hours on, essentially, events readying that he had tried so hard to prevent.
     
  11. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Mitchell Thomas

    Joined:
    1 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    5,025
    Likes Received:
    2,542
    This is spot on.

    I am not going to spend the rest of my life having a finger pointed at me like I am a racist by my own government for what the British Empire did to the the world or because the 60s and 70s were harder times.

    I have a strong belief that the attack on London Bridge did Corbyn no favours, the timing and his views on punishment and terrorism was out of tune and our of time.

    Facts are Corbyn has no idea about the mood of the country, 400% no idea and its been proven,
     
  12. monkeybarry

    monkeybarry Paul Stalteri

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2012
    Messages:
    7,254
    Likes Received:
    3,359
    Location:
    Blackheath
    SDLP and Sinn Fein might have something to say
     
  13. StephenH

    StephenH Luka Modric

    Joined:
    21 Jun 2015
    Messages:
    16,006
    Likes Received:
    8,101
    Location:
    SW London
    Time for a "New" Labour party?
     
  14. JerusalemMan

    JerusalemMan Milija Aleksic

    Joined:
    6 Aug 2012
    Messages:
    4,482
    Likes Received:
    3,257
    Quite.
    Perhaps Rother Valley is one of the most instructive cases. It has been a safe Labour seat since it was created more than 100 years ago. It doesn't have one Tory councillor. Then Labour selected a middle class 23 year old trans rights activist who called child abuse survivors 'trash' if they had concerns about a strip club...
     
    Last edited: 13 Dec 2019
  15. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Les Ferdinand

    Joined:
    5 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    11,855
    Likes Received:
    4,531

    Odd way of counting. You list Labour as a Leave party? They backed a second referendum. @galeforce too here is the reality from NoLimits figures:

    • Under 14.5m backed leave parties (Torys and Brexit party)
    • Over 16m voters backed parties who want a second referendum (Labour, SNP, Liberals, Greens)

    Therefore the popular vote doesn't back brexit, it backs a second referendum. Technically, that suggests brexit is anti-democratic. More people in the UK back parties who support a second referendum than support brexit. This despite the shambles that is Corbyn skewing the vote.
     
    Last edited: 13 Dec 2019
  16. galeforce

    galeforce Ralph Coates

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2012
    Messages:
    29,591
    Likes Received:
    14,404
    in words (barely), but not deeds
     
  17. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Les Ferdinand

    Joined:
    5 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    11,855
    Likes Received:
    4,531
    They backed a referendum very clearly. Backing a second referendum lost them the north leave voting seats. Not sure what deeds you'd have liked from the party not in power?

    A second referendum won the popular vote. Plain as.
     
  18. StephenH

    StephenH Luka Modric

    Joined:
    21 Jun 2015
    Messages:
    16,006
    Likes Received:
    8,101
    Location:
    SW London
    That means nothing, it's irrelevant!

    Corbyn’s stupidity and dreadful naivety, lack of leadership experience and common sense did for this country!
     
    SpurMeUp likes this.
  19. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Les Ferdinand

    Joined:
    5 Feb 2012
    Messages:
    11,855
    Likes Received:
    4,531
    I don't disagree. But it is facts. Votes cast.

    The silver lining is we are unshackled. And that is what people voted for. Boris can do his thing (even if an end to brexit, it being done, are far from a reality). Labour can try and expunge momentum and start afresh. Not sure we could have wanted anything else. A hung parliament would just delay what has happened now.
     
  20. StephenH

    StephenH Luka Modric

    Joined:
    21 Jun 2015
    Messages:
    16,006
    Likes Received:
    8,101
    Location:
    SW London
    I'm gobsmacked by the level stupidity behind the ’simple folk’ vote, up norf, Brexit wise!
     

Share This Page