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****OMT - TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs WOOLWICH ARSEnal****

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by AuroRaman, 1 Jan 2014.

  1. AuroRaman

    AuroRaman Gerry Armstrong

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    Where: The Scumirates
    When; Saturday 4th January
    Time; 17:15pm


    Riding on the crest of a wave, we travel to the Scumirates for an FA Cup tie against our bitter rivals. Can we end the week on a glorious note after the teams heroics at Old Trafford? Or will it be back to the uncertainty and heartache which losing to that horrible lot down the road can only bring. Not sure about injury news for our players, so I think Timmeh might actually revert to a 4-5-1 without Ade, plus it gives some of the guys who haven't been regularly starting some game time. Here's how we could line up:

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    Winning this cup tie would show real intent on our part to getting the season back on track after the madness of the last couple of months. We can do this. Because to dare, is of course, to do.


    I see your badgers, and I laugh in your faces. For they are mere sacrificial snacks for the OMT Gods.

    Good day.
     
  2. Mumorn

    Mumorn Vic Buckingham

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    Must admit, pretty worried about this one.
     
  3. diego_maradona

    diego_maradona Steffen Iversen Staff Member

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    Just hope we dont come away with a heavy defeat undoing all the hard work of the last few weeks.

    Need Ade fit for this one.

    ----------------Lloris------------------
    Walker---Daws-----Vlad------Rose
    Lennon---Dembele--Capoue--Eriksen
    -------------Ade---Soldado------------

    Worried about Daws and Rose massively here.
     
  4. the dza

    the dza Christian Ziege

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    I would pick that same team.
     
  5. indianspur

    indianspur Guest

    I couldnt care less tbh.....its a tough draw, away to the PL leaders and our biggest rivals, plus weve got a massive injury list. If we lose then so be it, we concentrate on the PL and the EL
     
  6. Hotshot-Tottenham

    Hotshot-Tottenham Milija Aleksic

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    It's on ITV btw.
     
  7. Sandman

    Sandman Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    Holtby was not even in the squad today? what has happened to him? Why is it when we have injuries we dont hear anything? would be nice to have some kind of idea of when they all might be back. As of todays game we are without:

    Holtby, Defoe, Townsend, Siggurdsson, Sandro, Paulinhio, Vertonghen, Kaboul and Naughton. Nearly a whole 10 outfield players.
     
  8. Sandman

    Sandman Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    At least there is a weeks break between this and our next game. Shame its not a Sunday game to give them an extra days rest.
     
  9. Mumorn

    Mumorn Vic Buckingham

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    Oh I agree with you. We lose this game and it doesnt bother me at all :lol:

    Just think we have absolutely no hope of winning. Would certainly take a draw and a replay at The Lane though.
     
  10. Hotshot-Tottenham

    Hotshot-Tottenham Milija Aleksic

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    Go full strength... We have 7 days before a home game v Palace. Also, we don't have a lot,of choice, assuming not all our injured players will be fit anyway.

    Imagine what a win at their place would do for morale.
     
  11. the dza

    the dza Christian Ziege

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    They will cause us problems and they will score, so we have to concentrate on how we can cause their defence problems too. It's a cup game and it's a derby, so we can play without too much fear and try and upset them.
     
  12. Nigeyman

    Nigeyman Jermaine Jenas

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    What do you think this is fking hide and seek
    I will disagree with you on this point... I totally get your reasons though I think the chance to 'dent' their season and disrupt their momentum is a decent opportunity for us....If we dump them out of the fa cup we will increase the pressure on them on the whole with the 'no trophy fears beginning' if we can impact their form it may benfit us in the long run...
     
  13. Mumorn

    Mumorn Vic Buckingham

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    Will be interesting to see Wengers line up. He usually plays a weakened team in the early stages of the FA Cup but knowing he is up against us on Saturday, I doubt we will see him weaken his side. I see Bendtner is injured and apparently will be out for three weeks and I know Giroud missed the game today due to injury so I have no idea who will play up front against us? Maybe he'll go with Walcott? Maybe Podolski will play up top?

    Ozil and Ramsey also missed the games today due to slight injuries I believe, but they'll probably be fit for our game
     
  14. yiddo37

    yiddo37 Peter Taylor

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    Not sure about Ramsey but I think Wenger said recently Ozil would definitely miss this game.
    Thing with them is apart from their defence they can pretty much replace like for like when they suffer injuries in midfield with the possible exception of Flamini and in attack too. The way they play means any one of Podolski or Walcott could play through the centre instead of Giroud/Bendtner without much difference to their game plan.
     
  15. Hotshot-Tottenham

    Hotshot-Tottenham Milija Aleksic

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    Would you not say that Walcott/Podolski need a different kind of out ball and give less hold up play than the other two?
     
  16. diego_maradona

    diego_maradona Steffen Iversen Staff Member

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    He's got a big squad it will be a strong team for sure
     
  17. DHSF

    DHSF Les Ferdinand

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    I think we may lose this - our players have had a tough game today and tough few games with mounting injuries now. I hope Ade is fit. I hope a few others are too
     
  18. yiddo37

    yiddo37 Peter Taylor

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    To a degree yes but most of their build-up play is quick one/two touch football through the midfield with the occasional link-up with the central attacker so don't think the hold up play of Giroud in particular will be missed that much.

    One main area we must watch is Walcott's movement wherever he plays, seems to find plenty of space and goal scoring opportunites against us, our defence really needs to be at their best.
     
  19. THFC6061

    THFC6061 Steffen Iversen

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    Arsenal host Tottenham Hotspur at the Emirates Stadium in the FA Cup 3rd Round on Saturday 4th January 2014 (KO 17:15).

    Arsenal have won the FA Cup 10 times, most recently in 2005 while Spurs have lifted the trophy 8 times, most recently in 1991.

    This will be the 253nd time the two teams have met and the 6th time in the FA Cup.

    Spurs v Arsenal is now one of the great rivalries in World Football but the fixture had very different beginings back in November 1887 when the clubs first met in a friendly played on Tottenham Marshes. Arsenal, then called Royal Arsenal, had been formed just a year earlier as Dial Square and were essentially the works team for the munitions factory situated in Woolwich, Kent, while Spurs who had been formed some five years earlier in 1882 still had many of the youngsters who founded the club playing for them. Spurs won that first encounter 2-1, although the game was cut short by 15 minutes, due to poor light conditions because of the Arsenal team getting lost and turning-up late for the start.

    Seven more friendlies were played between the two clubs from 1888 to 1896 with Spurs winning four and Arsenal winning three before their first competitive match in March 1899. By this time, Arsenal were re-named Woolwich Arsenal and the clubs met in the United League with the Gunners winning 2-1 at the Manor Ground in Plumstead while Spurs won the return match 3-2 at Northumberland Park.

    Two matches were played within the same week in April 1900 in the Southern District Combination League with Spurs winning 4-2 at White Hart Lane which was followed by a 2-1 win to Arsenal at Plumstead in a game abandoned after 75 minutes due to "bad language". History doesn't provide the answer as to who was the guilty party! From 1901 to 1920, the clubs met in various minor competitions, friendlies and matches played during the First World War.

    Tottenham Hotspur joined the Football League in season 1908-09 and won promotion to the First Division on their first attempt. The following season they played Arsenal in December 1909 and lost 0-1 at the Manor Ground in Plumstead, while the reverse fixture at White Hart Lane ended in a 1-1 draw with John Curtis scoring Spurs' first League goal against the Gunners.

    The teams met for three more seasons before Arsenal's relegation at the end of the 1912-13 season with Spurs winning three matches, Arsenal winning two and one game drawn.

    September 1913 proved to be a hugely important date in the history of both clubs as Arsenal controversially moved from south of the River Thames into the territory reserved for Tottenham Hotspur and Clapton (later Leyton) Orient, in clear violation of the rules and regulations governing such relocations as stipulated by the Football League. Despite bitter protests, Arsenal's move to Highbury (more correctly called Arsenal Stadium) was allowed.

    White Hart Lane was requisitioned by the Army during WWI, so Spurs played many of their wartime matches at Highbury.

    When League football resumed after the war in 1919, it was decided to once again expand the First Division from 20 teams to 22. The normal way of doing this had always been to add the top two clubs from the Second Division to those who were already in the First Division. However, there were complications arising from allegations of match-fixing from Liverpool and Manchester United during the final matches of the last season played before the League was suspended and it was felt that they would forfit their Top Flight status as a result.

    From nowhere, Arsenal, who had finished sixth (later corrected to fifth) in the Second Division before the war were 'elected' to take Tottenham Hotspur's place in the First Division. Allegations of bribery persist to this day and Henry Norris (Arsenal's Chairman) was later given a lifetime ban from football from the Football League for underhand financial activities.

    Spurs and Arsenal played their first Football League match after World War One in the First Division in January 1921 with Spurs winning 2-1 at White Hart Lane while Arsenal won the return match at Highbury 3-2. All 150 League games played to date have taken place in the Top Flight of English football.

    Highbury was taken over by the Army during the Second World War and Spurs returned the favour by allowing Arsenal to play their wartime matches at White Hart Lane. Arsenal won the first FA Cup meeting between the two teams 3-0 in the 3rd Round in January 1949. The clubs have played five FA Cup matches to date with Spurs winning two and Arsenal winning three.

    The first Football League Cup match took place in November 1968 with Arsenal winning the first leg of the Semi-Final 1-0 at Highbury and Spurs drawing 1-1 at White Hart Lane the following month. Of the 12 League Cup matches played so far, Spurs have won 3, Arsenal have won 6 and three games have been drawn.

    Both Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur were founder members of the Premier League in season 1992-93 and both clubs are among the seven (Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea, Manchester United and Aston Villa are the other five) who have been ever-present during the 21 seasons of the competition.

    Arsenal went two goals ahead by halftime in the 2010-11 fixture at the Emirates in November through Samir Nasri and Marouane Chamakh but Spurs came back strongly with goals from Gareth Bale, Rafael van der Vaart (penalty) and Younes Kaboul to secure a 3-2 win.

    The match at White Hart Lane in April 2011 was a six goal thriller with honours even. Theo Walcott and Rafael van der Vaart scored goals within the first 10 minutes before Samir Nasri put the Gunners 2-1 up after 12 minutes. Arsenal went further ahead with a Robin van Persie goal on 40 minutes but Tom Huddlestone made it 2-3 by halftime. Van der Vaart scored the only goal in the second half from the penalty spot.

    The fixture at White Hart Lane in October 2011 was won by Spurs 2-1 with goals from Rafael van der Vaart and Kyle Walker with Aaron Ramsey scoring for Arsenal. The Gunners won their home match in February 2012 5-2. Louis Saha had put Spurs ahead after 4 minutes and an Emmanuel Adebayor penalty put Tottenham further ahead after 34 minutes. But Arsenal pulled two goals back before half-time through Bacary Sagna and Robin van Persie. Tomas Rosicky put Arsenal in front just after the break and the rout was completed with a brace from Theo Walcott.

    During the 2012 summer transfer window, Spurs signed former Arsenal striker Emmanuel Adebayor from Emirates Marketing Project after having spent a season on loan.

    The match on 17th November at the Emirates resulted in a 5-2 win for Arsenal. Emmanuel Adebayor put Spurs ahead after 10 minutes but was sent-off eight minutes later for a rash tackle on Santi Cazorla. Arsenal then scored three times to make it 3-1 at halftime - Per Mertesacker, Lukas Podolski and Olivier Giroud grabbing the goals. Santi Cazorla put Arsenal further ahead on the hour mark but Gareth Bale pulled one back for Spurs before Theo Walcott scored the fifth for Arsenal just before the final whistle.

    Spurs won the match at the Lane in March 2013 2-1 with Gareth Bale scoring after 37 minutes and Aaron Lennon adding a second two minutes later. Per Mertesacker pulled a goal back for Arsenal six minutes into the second half.

    Olivier Giroud scored in the 23rd minute to give Arsenal the points in the September 2013 Premier League game at the Emirates.

    As far as Football League / Premier League matches go, three player have both scored nine goals for Spurs against Arsenal - Billy Minter and Bobby Smith.

    Three Arsenal players have each scored eight goals against Spurs - Robert Pires, Emmanuel Adebayor and Alan Smith.

    There have been three hat-tricks scored during North London Derbies - Terry Dyson for Spurs and Ted Drake & Alan Sunderland for Arsenal.

    Jimmy Robertson & Emmanuel Adebayor are the only two players to score for both Spurs & Arsenal in a North London Derby.

    Arsenal's David O'Leary has played in the most North London Derbies (35) while both Gary Mabbutt & Steve Perryman played 31 games with Spurs.

    Overall, Spurs have won 91 of the 252 matches played against Arsenal with the Gunners winning 102 and 59 matches drawn.


    Emmanuel Adebayor
    Clive Allen
    Charlie Ambler
    Bob Arber (Arsenal player, Spurs reserves manager)
    David Bentley
    David Black
    Anton Blackwood
    Jimmy Brain
    Laurie Brown
    Walter Bugg
    Lycurgus Burrows
    Sol Campbell
    Herbert Chapman (Spurs player, Arsenal manager)
    Damien Comolli (Director of Football at both clubs)
    Freddie Cox
    James Delvin
    Wilf Dixon (Spurs assistant manager, Arsenal trainer)
    Jack Eggett
    Tom Fitchie
    Theo Foley (Arsenal assistant manager, Spurs reserves manager)
    William Gallas
    George Graham (Arsenal player, manager of both clubs)
    Vic Groves
    Tom Hatfield
    Stewart Houston (Assistant manager at both clubs)
    Joe Hulme (Arsenal player, Spurs manager)
    George Hunt
    David Jenkins
    Pat Jennings
    Bill Julian
    Peter Kyle
    Neil Lacy
    Bill Lane (Spurs player, Arsenal scout)
    Peter McWilliam (Spurs manager, Arsenal scout)
    Tom Meade
    Billy Minter
    Terry Naylor
    Terry Neill (Arsenal player, manager of both clubs)
    Jamie O'Hara
    Tom O'Shea
    George Payne
    Ron Piper
    Tom Pratt
    Rohan Ricketts
    Jimmy Robertson
    Andrew Swan
    Walter Thomas
    Erik Thorstvedt
    Steve Walford
    Ernie Walley (Spurs player, Arsenal coach)
    Charlie Williams
    Willie Young

     
  20. onlyme

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    Let's hope Ade is available. Post match Sherwood did not look too concerned and said Ade had ice on his injury.

    From no matches all season to 4 in a week or whatever hopefully the injury not serious.
     

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