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~ OMT ~ TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR FC v Liverpool FC ~ THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL ~ 2019 ~

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Jon, 12 May 2019.

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Man of the match

Poll closed 4 Jun 2019.
  1. Lloris

    0 vote(s)
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  2. Rose

    54.7%
  3. Sissoko

    5.7%
  4. Winks

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  1. jaysea67

    jaysea67 Espen Baardsen

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    The new handball rules (which incidentally didn't apply for the CL final) specifically say "it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm ... when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body".
     
  2. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Chris Perry

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    Doesn't matter - if the player has his hands behind his back when he begins his fall/slide, he will assuredly risk an injury every time he extends his arm to break that fall/slide. Not enough time to properly extend the arm to avoid it.

    And the rules apply all the way until the player falls or goes to ground - so he has to keep his arms handcuffed behind his back or in front of him all the way until he starts falling, lest he concede a penalty.

    It's a crap rule, which I suspect was made by pompous, self-important my tits who have either never played the game or are old enough and unfit enough that their brains have been turned into shredded cabbage by the passage of time.
     
  3. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Chris Jones

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    agree whole heartedly

    The penalty scotland ladies conceded vs england was exactly that

    The changes to the rules may ether game a farce more and more

    VAR on handballs IMO will always make it look like a hand ball rather than a "ball to hand situation" and it will create a cheat mode

    Apparently they had the handball rule in Brazil a while back and players did exactly what people are worried about, kicked the ball an their opposition hand
     
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  4. Jon

    Jon Alf Ramsey

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    Those cunning bastards...
     
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  5. mephitis

    mephitis Sebastien Bassong

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    Delete if already posted....

     
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  6. Ade's folks are ok really

    Ade's folks are ok really Gus Poyet

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    Delete regardless! Still hurts too much to think about
     
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  7. Kandi1977

    Kandi1977 Ian Walker

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    You just reposted it...
     
  8. 90291Spur

    90291Spur Jimmy Neighbour

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    Delete this whole thread. I don't want to be reminded about this game any more.
     
  9. Gilzeantoscore

    Gilzeantoscore Jonathan Woodgate

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    Can this thread be deleted? It depresses me every time I'm forced to see it.
     
  10. 90291Spur

    90291Spur Jimmy Neighbour

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    Let’s have a poll!!!
     
  11. Jon

    Jon Alf Ramsey

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    Here you go

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  12. galeforce

    galeforce Teddy Sheringham

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    I’ve not watched a second of live football since, the tv went off at the final whistle, I’ve avoided everything except a few clips of the WWC on Twitter.
     
  13. Jon

    Jon Alf Ramsey

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    .....you should be the poor c*** that went and started it.
     
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  14. Roland Beurre

    Roland Beurre Terry Yorath

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    From The Times.

    "The referees’ chief Mike Riley has revealed that video assistant referees will not impose the tough line on handballs in the Premier League next season that has led to numerous controversial penalties in the Women’s World Cup and Champions League.

    Riley, the managing director of the Professional Game Match Officials Ltd (PGMOL), said that many of the penalties awarded for handball in the Women’s World Cup and Champions League — including those awarded against Tottenham Hotspur’s Danny Rose and Moussa Sissoko in the Champions League quarter-final and final respectively — would not be given in the Premier League."

    Just so you know.
     
  15. Roland Beurre

    Roland Beurre Terry Yorath

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    A bit more from the article.

    “Sissoko’s a really interesting one,” Riley said. “In real time it looks a clear penalty. With VAR you can actually see what he’s doing, and he’s not interested in trying to block the cross, he’s saying to the covering defender, ‘Get over there and fill the space.’

    “That’s not a deliberate act of extending the arm away from the body. You also see the ball deflects off the chest on to the arm, and if you put everything together and apply the philosophy we do here, we wouldn’t say that was handball.”
     
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  16. Glenda's Legs

    Glenda's Legs Dean Richards

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    Well that makes me feel a lot better :(

    Whilst the new rule is clearly problematic, is it right for different associations to decide how to interpret/(or whether to) implement it? Doesn't that take away from the intended purpose of VAR?
     
  17. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Paul Stalteri

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    Let's face it the rule change is the most laughable ever so let's just be grateful the PL are proposing to apply a bit of common sense. Hopefully that in turn will lead to yet more controversy such that we end up going back to where we started from.
     
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    Spur of the moment Paul Stalteri

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    Because all it needed in the first place was for the VAR to decide whether it was ball-to-hand or hand-to-ball.
     
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  19. Roland Beurre

    Roland Beurre Terry Yorath

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    In the full article, it makes it fairly clear that the interpretation has been tailored to suit the style of English football. Riley does not say it in so many words but he implies that in some leagues a five-minute break in the <ahem> action to review a decision would hardly interrupt the tempo, whereas in English football, breaking up the play would be regarded as a serious interruption.

    Riley expects two VAR incident per 10 games of footie, i.e. two VARs per full-fixture list for the Premiership.
     
  20. AjaxDeSuperYids

    AjaxDeSuperYids Ramon Vega

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    Those waste of space meddling bastards at uefa/fifa whoever, who try to justify their wage packet have quite possibly cost us the 2019 champions league.

    Utter clams the lot of them.
     
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