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Moussa Sissoko

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Jordinho, 31 Aug 2016.

  1. galeforce

    galeforce Steve Sedgley

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    60 times and counting.
     
  2. NoLimits01

    NoLimits01 Kevin Scott

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    May be we don't get the full £30m from Ashley until he has played a certain number of games and Levy is making Poch play him to get the money
     
  3. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Nick Barmby

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    scaramanga Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    Deschamps dropped him like a hot stone the moment he had a fit midfield to choose from.

    He's not been a regular in the French side for nearly two years now.

    I don't know what the Newcastle management were thinking but the fans were certainly very pleased to be rid of him. I seem to remember there was quite a lot of surprise at the magnitude of the transfer fee too.
     
  5. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Tim Sherwood

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    Problem is, I can't see any potential in him as a player in terms of the shinning it and poor control. As a goal scoring threat, he's no better than David Batty. Sure he's strong and fast but with no control. As someone stated above, he gets minutes when first choice players aren't available. The day we need to play Sissoko against a top four rival, we might as well give them an extra man.
     
  6. scaramanga

    scaramanga Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    Poch has spoken before about auras and not subbing players off when they have a bad game in case they get their poor little feelings hurt.

    He's good, very good, but he's not perfect. He's certainly far enough from perfect to make your argument a poor appeal to authority.

    All I've heard from Poch on why Sissoko is worthy of a Spurs shirt is some vague mumblings about something, something, transition. He's said nothing to prove why Sissoko is a valid choice, whilst Sissoko has done plenty to prove why he isn't.
     
  7. galeforce

    galeforce Steve Sedgley

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    Yet he was a regular in the side that made the last EC final.
     
  8. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Chris Armstrong

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    Come on man. You’re all for being funny about something when you feel like it.

    This is Moussa’s 3rd season now. 5 transfer windows in. For it to be ‘very clearly’ a mistake that he’s kept a good squad player here as a...good squad player...is nonsense.

    It’s the right move. Of course if he can play someone he can trust in the system but also expect more from on the ball, he will play them. As I acknowledge in this thread. But he had Dembele and he didn’t play him this weekend. If Sissoko was *that* bad, he’d play Dembele because there’s no way he’d risk having this French donkey in the team. Even if Dembele is only just back from holiday. Because the benefit of playing Dembele vs Sissoko would be so great, considering how bad Sissoko supposedly is.
     
  9. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Nick Barmby

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    Is Sissoko a shi1 Mendy?
     
  10. galeforce

    galeforce Steve Sedgley

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    :D
     
  11. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Chris Armstrong

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    It really is the height of arrogance to assume it is a poor appeal to authority to assume an elite coach has backed the same player for 3 years now, rather than accepting to the fact you have maybe exaggerated your criticism of the player.
     
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    scaramanga Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    I think he's a brick Ali Dia.
     
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    scaramanga Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    An unfortunate side effect of being me.

    All coaches make mistakes. Ferguson picked Obertan for two seasons.
     
  14. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Chris Armstrong

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    ...where he played a total of 460 minutes in the Premier League over 2 seasons. Try again?
     
  15. galeforce

    galeforce Steve Sedgley

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    He played 14 league games in two years.
     
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    galeforce Steve Sedgley

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    What we are looking for as comparison for Sir Alex is a player whom he matched his record signing fee for who played in 75% of eligible matches.
     
  17. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Chris Armstrong

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    The way he has to prove his decision making to you is by delivering results. Which he does, by over achieving every season he’s been here, and Sissoko’s played in a fair few of those marches.

    He’s also tried to explain, but as you wrote it off with ‘something something transition’ you probably wouldn’t understand the explanation if he ever had the opportunity to give it to you in more detail. Sometimes coaches make mistakes but quite often fans get confused by what is going on in the game when they don’t understand it / don’t have all the info.
     
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    galeforce Steve Sedgley

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    Berbatov maybe?
     
  19. scaramanga

    scaramanga Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    But the best manager the PL has seen both bought him and failed to immediately sell him.

    Minutes played is simply a result of the fitness of other players. If everyone else had been fit then Sissoko would have closed out games with 10 minutes here or there. We've had some bad luck with injuries in midfield so we have been forced to play him.

    We can't sell him because we massively overpaid for him. So we either take a big financial hit or we live with an underperforming team when we have injuries.
     
  20. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Chris Armstrong

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    He signed a young player with potential, who didn’t fulfill it, and was then sold. It is in no way the same thing. You must know this.

    We can easily loan him out. We have shown with Janssen that we don’t care about telling every other club that a player has absolutely no future with us, and that he isn’t part of the squad. If Sissoko was that bad he’d be ostracised in the same way. And we’d get him to build back his value by playing first team football somewhere else.
     

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