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Is all blacking up racism?

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by Grays_1890, 20 Sep 2019.

  1. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Jermaine Jenas

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    I saw the Trudeau news this week and people losing their utter brick about it and wondered is blacking up as racist as people say it is?

    Surely everything is about context?
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    It seems to be a problem in the US because of their specific historical context. They also boycotted the recent British suffragette film because one of the suffragette slogans was 'better to be a rebel than a slave', which they took exception to, but in the rest of the world had no unintended implications

    In a British context I don't see it particularly different to drag or Chinese theatre whitening up. If the purpose isn't to mock or belittle, then why not
     
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    Grays_1890 Jermaine Jenas

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    I think this is where I sit, dressing up as Aladdin I don't see as racism unless you are using it to mock but Aladdin is a fictional person so I am unsure if its offensive to anyone?
     
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    StephenH Steffen Freund

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    The Trudeau hullabaloo is sadly 'muckraking' and IMHO a total wast of oxygen.
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    It's probably quite positive that white people identify with non-white characters. I'm sure I remember kids coming to 80s fancy dress parties as Mr T - darkening make-up, jive talk and jewellery. But that's because he was a hero.
     
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    Grays_1890 Jermaine Jenas

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    It might seem a naive POV but most of this happens at fancy dress parties where white people black up to depict famous black people from history, you could not do it as a white person otherwise and like you I think its probably better acknowledging black heritage and their heroes
     
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    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    I dressed as Adebayor once
     
  8. Jon

    Jon Edgar Davids

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    I remember. Went down well I recall.....
     
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    Grays_1890 Jermaine Jenas

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    Did you?
     
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    SpurMeUp Jimmy McCormick

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    I think it was fine. But now its a thing, I'd feel like it is not appropriate.

    In the US espeically is it associated with taking the tinkle out of black people/ slavery etc? Of course no one wants to belittle such serious things. For better or worse culture is now global so I'm not sure it is okay anymore, although until recently I don't think British or other people dressing up had bad intentions. Recently the EU commission leaders have been 'accused' of it, the Canadian PM etc.
     
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    parklane1 Chris Jones

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    No it is not.
     
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    Parklaner81 Sebastien Bassong

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    I pity the fool who'd try that today...
     
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    Danishfurniturelover Ian Walker

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    If all blacing up racism then is all dressing as a woman make you a tranny?

    cos me and the soon to be dead wife went to a tarts and vicar party last summer and she was the vicar.
     
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    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    Yep, pal’s 30th, fancy dress beginning with A
    I went full kit
     
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    Danishfurniturelover Ian Walker

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    I remember.

    Think KingDawson was impressed.
     
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    NickTB Neil Ruddock

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    I forgot about that! Didn't AFan go apoplectic?
     
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    Jon Edgar Davids

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    I’m looking forward to @scaramanga going to @markysimmo ‘s 50th, in his full Moussa Sissoko cosplay get up....
     
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    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    Was he the lad who looked like the Somalian Gary Wilmott ??
     
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    Jon Edgar Davids

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    That’s a costume idea in itself!!!
     
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    scaramanga Steve Sedgley Staff Member

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    Never one to buck the trend, but I'm going to land on the side of yes.
     

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