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Dani Alves

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Maltese Falcon, 11 Jul 2019.

  1. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Nayim

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    I tend to think of it in terms of the speed of the game and physicality of the game here than literal pace (ie, all the players run fast).

    And I dont think thats a myth at all, its pretty frantic and hard for 90 minutes.

    Though Im not sure how that applies to Alves, who appears to be a bit of a specimine physically. Who knows if he can hack it?

    Id be willing to rely on Pochs judgement, if it ever came to it, rather than just make assumptions because he's 36
     
  2. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Chris Armstrong

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    How many other leagues do you watch? I've seen quite a bit of the Bundesliga and La Liga. They're often just as competitive and physical, if not more so than the EPL.

    This is the key point, it's not a constant and you can't just globally slap a tag on an entire league and claim it to be true. How many times did Cardiff or Fulham provide a relentless, physical test to teams last season? It's flimflam.

    Physicality of an opponent depends entirely on their squad, manager, philosophy and approach, not the fudging league they play in.
     
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  3. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Nayim

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    There will always be comparisons and exceptions, just as there will always be odd teams/games that buck the "rule", but I dont think its unfair to suggest a general style to a league.

    The Premiership is fast, and it is physical.

    Thats not to say other leagues arent, but I do believe the EPL has a fairly unique blend of both that can make it rather challenging for some players to adapt.

    Time on the ball is at an absolute premium here compared to most leagues Ive seen, for instance.

    Though IMO the physicality of a player counts for less in that adaptation than technique. Players with proper technique make their own time and space and take less hits etc generally and do just fine.
     
  4. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    I think it's the rate of turnover of the ball. In Southern Europe there is lots of resting in possession and patient build-up. You don't get that in England - the pressing is so immediate

    Germany is similar to England, which is why players from there tend to adapt quickly here. But Italy, Spain and France etc. are all much slower paced contests.
     
  5. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Chris Armstrong

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    Is it what you see or is it what you're told ad nauseum by fudgetard pundits on television?

    You've just been convinced by the tired old clinches that get trotted out, which are simply not true.
     
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  6. nayenezgani

    nayenezgani Chris Armstrong

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    I'll give you France. The quality of play and pressing is certainly not the same there. I totally disagree on Spain and Italy. The quality sides there press and compete just as well as the quality English sides.
     
  7. nayimfromthehalfwayline

    nayimfromthehalfwayline Nayim

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    I have seen it for myself, but thanks for the vote of confidence in assuming Im easily convinced by fudgetards.
     
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    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    But their opponents don't. It's the fierceness of the competition right down the table that makes England distinct. Divers new arrivals to the league speak about it
     
  9. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla Simon Davies

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    Or Naybet, Davids, Cambiasso...

    Edit, Alves has been one of the best RB’s in world football for the last 20 years. Berti and Saib were never at that level.
     
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    Daisuk Pedro Mendes

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    He's old, but he's still excellent. He could do a job for us for at least a year - definitely worth it on a free, in my opinion. Brings a whole lot of experience in too.
     
  11. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    Even Alves with one leg would be better than Aurier/Trippier based on their last season's performances
     
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  12. Jon

    Jon Alf Ramsey

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    Are you having a laugh?

    In terms of recent defenders of the last 20 years or so, only Ledley and Toby have come close. And they’re some way off him in 2nd and 3rd spot.
     
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    spurspinter1 Ruel Fox

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    I love this kind of move, all for it. Losing Trippier and bringing in experienced cover could really give KWP the time to shine; I think we'd regret not giving him a proper go. Looks like Auriers going to have a delayed pre season so don't want to rush him back and getting in cash for Tripper to go towards another young talent like Sessegnon works all round.

    Only thing is, it's not a very Poch like move. Having said that doesn't he get on and have links with Puyol? Could be a good character reference to have!
     
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    billyiddo Jimmy Cantrell Staff Member

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    Id be all for it
     
  15. Maltese Falcon

    Maltese Falcon Jose Dominguez

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    I don't want to rush him back either... indeed if he never wears the shirt again and finds some desperate club willing to take him, that would be the ultimate transfer window.
     
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    galeforce Teddy Sheringham

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    Levy is not going to sign Alves, the Brazilian would want stupid money, which is anything more than zero for a player of that age in Daniels mind.

    As to style, yes the PL is different generally, but for our games not so much, we are always attacking against two banks of 5.
     
  17. Modric THFC

    Modric THFC Johnny Morrison

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    Just won Player of the Tournament at the Copa America
     
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    jamonserrano Espen Baardsen

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    Sorry to abort the tossfest but I don't want to see this arrogant diving machine ladygarden in a Spurs kit.
     
  19. Jon

    Jon Alf Ramsey

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    Sounds like you’re on the fence still.
     
  20. Gazza Dazzla

    Gazza Dazzla Simon Davies

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    Don’t worry, you haven’t
     

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