Baleforce
Ron Henry
Nonsense.
It’s more important to stand for something than to play a game.
You can’t ignore politics.
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2022 World Cup... gonna ruin the European Season
- Thread starter Bedfordspurs
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Nonsense.
It’s more important to stand for something than to play a game.
You can’t ignore politics.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
What on earth are you on about?
milo
Jack L. Jones
Allowing countries with poor human rights records host the world cup is a political decision. People have every right to oppose those decisions.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
I will due to the fact Qatar was proven to have won the bid wrongly in the first place, now the games gonna be messed up on top of that.
What a mess.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
This is it. When you bid on anything and follow an RFP process you follow a set number of conditions, one of the main ones you would have to hit would have been the summer dates before you even moved onto the next stage of the RFP.
So not only did Qatar bribe their way through they said they could host a summer World Cup and could not, thus they should have not even been able to complete a bid book.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Luka Modric
The other side of it is - who is going to go to Qatar?
Russia was pushing it for many, Qatar is a whole other level of univiting/far/expensive... Will the competition even be that well attended?
Russia was pushing it for many, Qatar is a whole other level of univiting/far/expensive... Will the competition even be that well attended?
I am not against a winter WC but winning a bid on a Summer WC and shifting it is bollox. So dirty and not a peep from Ueffa, its a shame for the players but would be open to a boycott of this one - I was ok with Russia as even if it was dirty at least it could be justified, Soviets > Russia have always been a big footballing country.
* I know Soviet was not a country.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
I don't see it, Qatar will be like no other place its been before, no streets in the tradtional sense where fans will take over areas or squares, it will all be hotel operated or special fan parks.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Luka Modric
I have to admit, Russia was more well attended than I expected, but maintain Qatar is a whole other degree of inaccessible/undesirable/far/costly etc.
The timing just makes that worse, who is going to spend thousands on a trip out there for the WC right on top of Christmas?
The timing just makes that worse, who is going to spend thousands on a trip out there for the WC right on top of Christmas?
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Qatar will be cheaper than Russia I would say, like for like without the WC its cheaper as hotels and airfare is cheaper (there is more). The main issue for me as someone that worked there is there will be no fan engagement or feeling, you go to any other WC you will have fans walking the streets, hanging out of Cafes in the main square drinking etc which is part of the charm. Its impossible to do that in Qatar unless they change the rules, its not a walkable country like anywhere else, its very much in the hotel vein so you will just have people in hotels, jumping into taxis and coaches to go to games and heading back again. It will be dull.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
I’m actually not against a winter World Cup, like you say it may make a nice change, but that’s not the bid that was made. It was for a summer World Cup with air con stadium!
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
If you do include politics in sports, almost all the countries will lost the right to host any sports tournaments. All the countries are guilty of human rights abuses or war crimes in some way. Remember, the US and Britain attacked Iraq in 2003 and killed thousands of innocent people.
It seems the Europeans always have 1001 reasons to skip a World Cup. But the passionate South Americans always have one main reason to attend the World Cup : just to watch their team play ! World Cup 2010 in South Africa and World Cup 2018 in Russia have proven that the passionate South Americans will always lift any World Cup regardless of where it is being held, with or without the Europeans ! I am sure the South Americans will make sure Qatar 2022 will be successful as well.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Hmm as you can see from the graphic on the last World Cup in Brazil, half the world away, Europeans and English in particular do travel to world cups and support their team. Think it’s just Russia that Europeans fans have avoided due to the threat of violence. Probably something to do with Russia politics getting involved in football, I know you hate it when countries do that. I didn’t see your reply in the other thread on the Russian state sponsoring of the shameful holiganism by the Russians in France at the euros?
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
Unfortunately the world is dominated by the Western media who are mostly propaganda tools of their governments. It is no logic to still believe the propaganda of United "lied about Iraq" States and it's allies.
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
https://www.maxim.com/sports/fifa-world-cup-women-broadcasts-2018-7
One thing we might see less in the next World Cup 2022 will be the camera focusing on the women spectators during matches. FIFA wants their official broadcasters not to focus the camera on these women as they think it encourages sexist attacks. Not sure this is a good idea. I think if not for the camera focusing on them, we might not know if these women are even there watching ! I think the reaction of the crowd, especially women, makes every match more entertaining to watch. It will be a pity if FIFA stops the camera focusing on them.
One thing we might see less in the next World Cup 2022 will be the camera focusing on the women spectators during matches. FIFA wants their official broadcasters not to focus the camera on these women as they think it encourages sexist attacks. Not sure this is a good idea. I think if not for the camera focusing on them, we might not know if these women are even there watching ! I think the reaction of the crowd, especially women, makes every match more entertaining to watch. It will be a pity if FIFA stops the camera focusing on them.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Ok comrade!
ShipOfTheseus
Clint Dempsey
I'm quite happy to watch the game. Reaction shots from managers and benched players are one thing. That ridiculous game where the camera zooms in on people because they are either fit birds, in national costume, gurning, or all three, and then pans away as soon as they spot themselves on the big screen? It can go the way of colour commentary from ex-Gooners.
This seems to be the one advantage of holding the World Cup in Gilead, anyway.
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
I agree that it can be very annoying at times when the camera focus too long on the crowd during the matches, but having camera shots of these beautiful women among the crowd does makes the matches more "colourful" and reduces the tension during tight matches.