Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Maybe if you can afford it, it is better, but therein lies the problem. Most American's can't.
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American politics
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Rorschach
Sonny Walters
British people haven't a clue, I'll give you that. They voted for brexit ffs. The rest of the world has America pegged exactly right.
I'm neither most people nor American. Their healthcare is great.
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Rorschach
Sonny Walters
You're a smalligarch.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
I have read that Americans give more to good causes and charities per head then any other country.
Think the has been a long time hatred of Americans by some, particularly on the left so they always moan when the is a Republican president.
That said Trump is a cnut.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
500mil I think
That's like me not bothering to chase a £5 in the wind isn't it?
monkeybarry
Ian Walker
Difference is Sanders wants to be president
Corbyn was an accident
Yes, but you could afford the health care there cos you showed them the golden gun so you will see the good side of it.
I just had insurance. Came free with my bank account.
Couldn't have been easier. Called the concierge service, asked her to find me the nearest appropriate hospital and send me the location to my phone, she sent our insurance documents and called ahead telling them we were on our way in.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
You got free health insurance for opening a bank account? Well, there you go. A new medicare for all plan has been born. Crazy Americans paying thousands in insurance when all they had to do is open an account.
Obviously has minimum requirements but I get loads free with it.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Obviously. Just a few minor entry requirements I'm sure. New participants to the medicare-for-the-few scheme can sort out the technicalities with their concierge.
I have no doubt that you had a good experience with the US healthcare system but you are only proving the point that money buys good outcomes, and the opposite is also true.
My understanding is that there are cheaper hospitals in the US, they're just not as good as the one I saw.
I don't think "You get what you pay for" is a particularly bad general rule.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
For most things, this is a truism. And even in healthcare, I have no problem in having a private healthcare system running parallel to a public one. More comfortable surroundings or better meals are fine but better health outcomes should not be overly determined by your wealth IMO. There should be an upper limit to what your money can buy and a lower limit determined by a social safety net. A societal donut lets say.
Anyway back to the point, that's not what they have in the US. How much money you have determines your medical experience and medical bankruptcies are commonplace. That's it for this topic from me. I'm starting to sound like Bernie.
So all the so called moderates drop out en mass and appear at a rally to endorse Biden who no doubt has promised them all some cushty jobs right before Super Tuesday when they could have seen what their support would get them. Whole thing stinks, Biden is such a dull awful candidate. I'm not even left wing but Sanders has a real presence and conviction about him - fantastic public speaker.
Risk now is if Biden wins the nomination that Sanders supporters don't bother to vote again handing it to Trump.
Risk now is if Biden wins the nomination that Sanders supporters don't bother to vote again handing it to Trump.
<Insert Godwin here>