Time to remove Lineker from the Hall of Fame?

[glorygloryeze]

I don't agree. Sven might've had some better players, debatable, but Venables team had a better balance.

Interesting. Venables team had maybe a better left-sided operator in McManaman and a midfielder in Gazza who could actually do what playmakers are expected to.
However, Sven's team was more battle-hardened and had better defenders: it's hard to know how well Venables team would have done if they were not playing on home soil. You have to remember that they only won two games out of five in 90 mins.

 

[milo]

Interesting. Venables team had maybe a better left-sided operator in McManaman and a midfielder in Gazza who could actually do what playmakers are expected to.
However, Sven's team was more battle-hardened and had better defenders: it's hard to know how well Venables team would have done if they were not playing on home soil. You have to remember that they only won two games out of five in 90 mins.

Let's compare the teams from the first game in Euro 96 and the 2002 World Cup

1996

Seaman
G. Neville
Adams
Southgate
Pearce
Anderton
Ince
Gascoigne
Mcmanaman
Sheringham
Shearer

2002

Seaman
Mills
Ferdinand
Campbell
Cole
Beckham
Scholes
Hargreaves
Heskey
Vassell
Owen

 

[glorygloryeze]

Let's compare the teams from the first game in Euro 96 and the 2002 World Cup

1996

Seaman
G. Neville
Adams
Southgate
Pearce
Anderton
Ince
Gascoigne
Mcmanaman
Sheringham
Shearer

2002

Seaman
Mills
Ferdinand
Campbell
Cole
Beckham
Scholes
Hargreaves
Heskey
Vassell
Owen

I'd say the Euro 96 team would be better, but I think a better comparison would be the teams that started either Euro 2004 or World Cup 2006...

 

[milo]

Let's compare the teams from the first game in Euro 96 and the 2002 World Cup

1996

Seaman
G. Neville
Adams
Southgate
Pearce
Anderton
Ince
Gascoigne
Mcmanaman
Sheringham
Shearer

2002

Seaman
Mills
Ferdinand
Campbell
Cole
Beckham
Scholes
Hargreaves
Heskey
Vassell
Owen

The team in our opening match in 2006 was

Robinson
G. Neville
Ferdinand
Terry
Cole
Beckham
Gerrard
Lampard
Cole
Owen
Crouch

 

[milo]

I'd say the Euro 96 team would be better, but I think a better comparison would be the teams that started either Euro 2004 or World Cup 2006...

I've just posted the 06 team. I think that you're into the good players, poor balance period then.

 

[glorygloryeze]

I've just posted the 06 team. I think that you're into the good players, poor balance period then.

Yeah, the shoehorning of Lampard and Gerrard, just because, was crippling.
I think a more systems oriented manager would have got more out of that team, especially if they'd bean able to keep Scholes interested. Oh for 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 then eh...

 

[milo]

Yeah, the shoehorning of Lampard and Gerrard, just because, was crippling.
I think a more systems oriented manager would have got more out of that team, especially if they'd bean able to keep Scholes interested. Oh for 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 then eh...

Joe Cole on the left never really worked either.

Wasn't 06 the tournament Rooney was selected but was coming back from injury and Walcott was picked without ever playing in the PL?

 

[parklane1]

Joe Cole on the left never really worked either.

Wasn't 06 the tournament Rooney was selected but was coming back from injury and Walcott was picked without ever playing in the PL?

Yes it was ( and the other forward was a giraffe) and Beckham just coming back from injury as well. That was the end of my love affair with my support for England. Golden Generation was a joke.

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

Yes it was ( and the other forward was a giraffe) and Beckham just coming back from injury as well. That was the end of my love affair with my support for England. Golden Generation was a joke.

It was just weak management IMO. It would never happen, but had we got Jose in charge in 2006 then England would have had another trophy, it may not have been pretty, but we’d have one.

 

[milo]

Yes it was ( and the other forward was a giraffe) and Beckham just coming back from injury as well. That was the end of my love affair with my support for England. Golden Generation was a joke.

Good players but a badly balanced team. Everyone wanted to be a star and not enough water carriers to create a base to build from.

 

[billyiddo]

Svens various England 'teams' were a joke, an awful era for international football

 

[SteveAWOL]

Svens various England 'teams' were a joke, an awful era for international football

 

[Mr_B]

ah, euro 96, great time in my life, just finished Uni, young, free and single, none of the middle age stresses I have now, should have won that tournament, that slide from gazza, one kebab too many.....

 

[markysimmo]

More records broken tonight for H
More tinkle to boil Mr Lineker, gutted for you, you juggy clam

 

[milo]

More records broken tonight for H
More tinkle to boil Mr Lineker, gutted for you, you juggy clam

He's got no beef with Kane and I have only heard him say positive things about him. He's right that there are a lot more weaker teams to play in qualification now.

 

[Kandi1977]

He's got no beef with Kane and I have only heard him say positive things about him. He's right that there are a lot more weaker teams to play in qualification now.

England played two of them in 3 days now. Would be another story if they had to face a united Yugoslavia.

 

[Favour]

Svens various England 'teams' were a joke, an awful era for international football

I had this as my ringtone for ages...