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Climate Change

I thought this was quite a good read - https://www.theguardian.com/environ...tion-rebellion-race-climate-crisis-inequality

I support the aim of emissions reduction but a lot of the people I see on the news are rather hypocritical with their iphones imported from China who are the worst polluters going. A lot of their tech and tents etc also look like they're imported from high emission producing countries in the far east (I have no evidence of this to be fair). But overall their aims are fantasy - nowhere have they set out a realistic proposal of how the UK would reach zero net emissions by 2025 - even the unions said that doing it by 2030 as is Labours policy would likely lead to mass job losses.
 
What we’re these troublemakers doing when you were at the protests?


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Saw a few peeing in the streets, grafiti, being arrested, saw some in masks giving people going to work some grief.
 
I thought this was quite a good read - https://www.theguardian.com/environ...tion-rebellion-race-climate-crisis-inequality

I support the aim of emissions reduction but a lot of the people I see on the news are rather hypocritical with their iphones imported from China who are the worst polluters going. A lot of their tech and tents etc also look like they're imported from high emission producing countries in the far east (I have no evidence of this to be fair). But overall their aims are fantasy - nowhere have they set out a realistic proposal of how the UK would reach zero net emissions by 2025 - even the unions said that doing it by 2030 as is Labours policy would likely lead to mass job losses.
Better to fail aiming high than succeed aiming low.
 
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I think it means the use of force, violence or intimidation to further one's political views.

Maybe not violence but the other parts all fit.
 
Just off whitehall.

What's the arrest count so far for the peaceful bunch?

Ok thanks. I've been documenting the protests since Monday and have yet to see a single form of anti-social behaviour as you've described in that time. I would suggest your stab in the dark of those percentages is way off.

I believe at least over 500 arrests have been made. Again, the arrests I've witnessed and documented have not involved any form of violence from either a protestor or the police. Anyone who wishes to be involved in actions or marches for XR or any other movements around it are asked if they would be willing to be arrested in order to determine whether they should be involved in actions such as sit-ins or blockades. The police have been very cooperative and clear in their stance and inform protestors of the potential of arrest if they do not follow sections of the law.

I'm not sure an unwillingness to move one's tent (as on example) showcases violent and terrorist-like tendencies.
 
I think it means the use of force, violence or intimidation to further one's political views.

Maybe not violence but the other parts all fit.

terrorist
/ˈtɛrərɪst/
noun
  1. a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
By your own definition earlier in this thread, I'm not sure how intimidating a bunch of asthma-suffering, malnourished vegans can be.
 
terrorist
/ˈtɛrərɪst/
noun
  1. a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
By your own definition earlier in this thread, I'm not sure how intimidating a bunch of asthma-suffering, malnourished vegans can be.
Enough of them en masse could probably be enough to cause a bruise or two - at least until one held up a sapling as a living shield or their trust funds run out.
 
Ok thanks. I've been documenting the protests since Monday and have yet to see a single form of anti-social behaviour as you've described in that time. I would suggest your stab in the dark of those percentages is way off.

I believe at least over 500 arrests have been made. Again, the arrests I've witnessed and documented have not involved any form of violence from either a protestor or the police. Anyone who wishes to be involved in actions or marches for XR or any other movements around it are asked if they would be willing to be arrested in order to determine whether they should be involved in actions such as sit-ins or blockades. The police have been very cooperative and clear in their stance and inform protestors of the potential of arrest if they do not follow sections of the law.

I'm not sure an unwillingness to move one's tent (as on example) showcases violent and terrorist-like tendencies.
Bloody terrorist
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50000110

Extinction Rebellion: Flight delayed as activists vow to 'shut down' airport

An Extinction Rebellion activist had to be taken off a flight at London City Airport, as part of ongoing protests.

BBC Newsnight's Nicholas Watt said his flight was about to take off when a protester refused to resume his seat.

Meanwhile, police made several arrests as activists blocked the main entrance to the airport, with some gluing themselves to the floor.

In Westminster, tents and protesters have been cleared from the roads leading to Parliament Square.

However, streets around Parliament and Whitehall remain closed to traffic, apart from cyclists, with a heavy police presence in the area.

It is the fourth day of the Extinction Rebellion climate change protests, which are taking place across central London and other major cities worldwide.

By Wednesday night, a total of 800 people had been arrested in connection with the protests, the Met Police said.


Nicholas Watt said his flight from London City Airport to Dublin was at the end of the runway when a "smartly dressed man" stood up and began to walk down the aisle, delivering a lecture on climate change.

Cabin crew "calmly and very politely" asked the protester to resume his seat and when he declined they alerted the pilot, Watt said in a tweet.

He said the plane then taxied back to the gate, where police escorted the protester off the plane.

Passengers were then able to reboard the flight, which has since taken off nearly two hours late.

Aer Lingus said the passenger was removed "due to disruptive behaviour on board" and a full security check of the aircraft was completed prior to the flight departing.

Activists are attempting a three-day "Hong Kong-style occupation of the terminal building" to highlight what they claim is the "incompatibility" of the east London airport's planned £2bn expansion with meeting the government's legally-binding commitment to go net carbon neutral by 2050.

Former Metropolitan Police detective John Curran was among those arrested, after he glued himself to the pavement outside the airport.

An 83-year-old man, Phil Kingston, was also arrested, as hundreds of people blocked the main passenger entrance.

It is the third time he has been arrested as part of the Extinction Rebellion protests this week.

Those arriving for flights were redirected to a second entrance by security workers and were not allowed to enter the building until they had shown their boarding cards.

An activist who gave her name as Claire, 51, told the PA news agency that protesters wanted "to make the statement that there are many areas of our lives that are going to have to change because of the climate crisis we've created, and one of them is flying".

"We can't carry on with life, with business as usual," she said.

Protesters also caused disruption outside the terminal, as several sat down on the zebra crossing, blocking traffic going in and out of the passenger drop-off zone.

Cars and buses were backed up in both directions before the demonstrators were cleared from the roads by police.

Taxi driver Jason Lempiere said the protests had disrupted his work in and around the city.

"It's disturbing everyone's everyday life; working, travel in and out of the airport," he said.

"Yeah, have a voice, but not disrupt people's lives like this."

A spokesman for London City Airport said as of 09:15 BST more than 60 flights had either arrived or departed.

"We continue to work closely with the Metropolitan Police to ensure the safe operation of the airport, which remains fully open and operational," he said.

The airport advised passengers to check the status of their flight before travelling.
 
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