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Supreme Training Complex Has Nearly Paid for Itself

scaramanga said:
Hmmmm. That list includes some who graduated before it was in place and doesn't take into account a normal level of income from graduates.

I'm guessing this Tottenham blog thing had too much space and too little content.
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No different from most blogs ( imo) most of them are written by those who have too much time on their hands and nothing much else happening in their lives.
 
In an ideal world I'm sure most teams would hope to finance their player development schemes with transfers of unwanted players.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
In an ideal world I'm sure most teams would hope to finance their player development schemes with transfers of unwanted players.
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Yes, and that's what the mid level PL academy players will do for us (the ones our fans hate on the most). It's really the Jake Livermore type productions that will carry the costs most years. Whoever of Carroll, Mason, Pritchard, Onomah, etc move on next will continue the trend (we have actually produced a lot of mid tier PL talent in last 5-7 years).

The real highlight of the current generation is obviously Kane (with nods to Rose and Walker), the savings by producing vs. buying him is stupid money. The trick is, can you improve the ratio of King/Kane type productions vs. Livermore/Caulker type.
 
Raziel said:
Yes, and that's what the mid level PL academy players will do for us (the ones our fans hate on the most). It's really the Jake Livermore type productions that will carry the costs most years. Whoever of Carroll, Mason, Pritchard, Onomah, etc move on next will continue the trend (we have actually produced a lot of mid tier PL talent in last 5-7 years).

The real highlight of the current generation is obviously Kane (with nods to Rose and Walker), the savings by producing vs. buying him is stupid money. The trick is, can you improve the ratio of King/Kane type productions vs. Livermore/Caulker type.
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Nail on head there Raz. Regardless of how you look at it, the investment in our Academy is bearing fruit and could potentially save us fortunes in player costs. How much would it cost to buy a Kane, Walker or Rose. That in itself is showing value, but the fact that we can afford to sell the likes of Livermore, Pritchard, Townsend etc.... for considerable sums means that we are actually getting a revenue stream for it. I would imagine that we would stop selling our youth when either we think they are going to be amazing, or if the pipeline of talent coming through is of less quality. Either way, if you compare the success of our Academy to anyone elses, I think you will be able to see that we are definitely in the top 1 or 2 clubs. What youth player out there would not want to be at Spurs? Big chance of playing in the first team, but also a big chance of being able to make a decent living out of the game regardless.
 
Is there a sense for which other clubs have a successful sell-on model nowadays from their academies? Obviously we are focused on our own but do other clubs have similar success (from a financial perspective rather than bringing academy players through to first team)?
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Is there a sense for which other clubs have a successful sell-on model nowadays from their academies? Obviously we are focused on our own but do other clubs have similar success (from a financial perspective rather than bringing academy players through to first team)?
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Dortmund and Atletico.

Can't be bothered to look a full list up, but Dortmund have sold Goetze and Sahin for a decent sum. Atletico have sold Torres, Aguero, De Gea, etc. over the years.

That's not to mention the players they have on the books currently like Reus and Koke.
 
Not as though you need to justify your training complex solely on income from sales anyway.

Even if we hadn't sold a single player since it was opened, the contributions of all those who have come through it to play for the first team - including those who were eventually sold - would by now have paid for it in the fees we've not had to pay out for their equivalents.

Worth mentioning that having such a prestigious centre is also a massive draw for the most talented kids out there.

With the likes of Edwards, Winks, CCV, KWP, Miller and Walkes in the pipeline it looks like we're nicely placed for the foreseeable.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
Is there a sense for which other clubs have a successful sell-on model nowadays from their academies? Obviously we are focused on our own but do other clubs have similar success (from a financial perspective rather than bringing academy players through to first team)?
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Fwiw, figures for 2012 through to 2015...

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Gazzasrightboot said:
Nail on head there Raz. Regardless of how you look at it, the investment in our Academy is bearing fruit and could potentially save us fortunes in player costs. How much would it cost to buy a Kane, Walker or Rose. That in itself is showing value, but the fact that we can afford to sell the likes of Livermore, Pritchard, Townsend etc.... for considerable sums means that we are actually getting a revenue cat video on youtube for it. I would imagine that we would stop selling our youth when either we think they are going to be amazing, or if the pipeline of talent coming through is of less quality. Either way, if you compare the success of our Academy to anyone elses, I think you will be able to see that we are definitely in the top 1 or 2 clubs. What youth player out there would not want to be at Spurs? Big chance of playing in the first team, but also a big chance of being able to make a decent living out of the game regardless.
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Er.... we did buy Walker and Rose
 
Spur of the moment said:
H.mm well on the face of it that puts us in our place. Except of course it puts no value whatsoever on players who have stayed and potentially added even more value to the club.
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Without a doubt, these type of stats are good reading but as with most rarely tell the full story. What i will say is that having worked in several youth set ups there are far more players who go on elsewhere then actually make the break through at the club they start out with.

What our set up will do is attract more players and especially parents who want to put their kids through and give them the best chance to progress.
 
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