nayimfromthehalfwayline
Luka Modric
You are right - net spend is 71m, but its not including the fee for Lo Celso, which I was.
Ill leave the rest, we'll be here all week otherwise!
Ill leave the rest, we'll be here all week otherwise!
Inter had won the league 3 years in a row doing the double on one of those years. So no we aren't quite what Inter were. Porto is a decent shout though, they were in and around the top like we are when Mourinho took over.I think our current position is pretty much where Porto and Inter were when Jose took them over.
Apparently....You are right - net spend is 71m, but its not including the fee for Lo Celso, which I was.
Ill leave the rest, we'll be here all week otherwise!
Inter had won the league 3 years in a row doing the double on one of those years. So no we aren't quite what Inter were. Porto is a decent shout though, they were in and around the top like we are when Mourinho took over.
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First year was due to Calciopoli, after which Inter took the best players from Juve and were the preeminent team in Serie A.Only due to Calciopoli though right?
some think that Pochettino should be delivering improvements year on year?
Yup, for all the talk I had about transfer fees, wages are the real difference between ourselves and the other top 6. We just can't match what they offer.FWIW, the Dippers plus Goons have splashed out over half a £billion more than us on player amortisation & wages over the past 5 years whilst ManU have lavished precisely £1billion extra in just half a decade Heck even Everton have pretty much caught up with us, for all the good that’s doing them currently!
ManU: £575m & £1.21bn = £1.785bn
Emirates Marketing Project: £496m & £1.101bn = £1.597bn
Chavs: £424m & £1.095bn = £1.519bn
Dippers: £302m & £990m = £1.292bn
Goons: £316m & £975m = £1.291bn
Spurs: £209m & £576m = £785m
Everton: £164m & £481m = £645m
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Indeed, whilst tabloids love to focus on headline grabbing transfer fees the reality is clubs amortise that over the length of players’ contracts to help meet FFP and everyone in EPL spends at least twice as much a year on wages (hence why Sadio Mane chose to sign for Dippers even after Pochettino gave him guided tour of our new training ground).Yup, for all the talk I had about transfer fees, wages are the real difference between ourselves and the other top 6. We just can't match what they offer.
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Brilliant as usual @SteveAWOL
To put it into stark round figures that we can remember
Player amortisation & wages over the past 5 years
MNU: £1.8b xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MNC: £1.6b xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CHE: £1.5b xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
LIV: £1.3b xxxxxxxxxxxxx
ARS: £1.3b xxxxxxxxxxxxx
TOT: £0.8b xxxxxxxx
EVE: £0.6b xxxxxx
And yet Pochettino is seriously underachieving apparently?!?!?Brilliant as usual @SteveAWOL
To put it into stark round figures that we can remember
Player amortisation & wages over the past 5 years
MNU: £1.8b xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MNC: £1.6b xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CHE: £1.5b xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
LIV: £1.3b xxxxxxxxxxxxx
ARS: £1.3b xxxxxxxxxxxxx
TOT: £0.8b xxxxxxxx
EVE: £0.6b xxxxxx
The real conversation is what could our spend be in the next 5 years?
I think you'd need to add Lamela, Aurier and Lo Celso to those three names above. I would imagine though that all clubs can also talk about players that they brought in on good deals that is quite subjective really.It’s a decent starting point for a stat, but it ignores the value of the players as they are rather than what we paid for them, alli and Eriksen were effectively free, Kane actually was.
We also got great deals on Toby,Verts, Lloris, Rose and Son.
The only players in the squad we paid fair market prices for were Sissoko, Ndombele and Sanchez.
Well at least that's more than season 18/19!£5.62
I think you'd need to add Lamela, Aurier and Lo Celso to those three names above. I would imagine though that all clubs can also talk about players that they bought in on good deals that is quite subjective really.
The facts are that Pochettino took over a club that finished 6th the previous season and then took them to 5th, before securing three top 4 finishes in a row. So he took over the 6th best club in the land and turned them into one of the best four clubs in the land, not as a one off event, but consistently. He did that with the 6th biggest wage bill and (guessing here) 8th to 10th biggest transfer budget.
I am still failing to see how this is considered to be underachieving.
I am still also waiting to be given the name of another manager in Europe who has managed to do what Pochettino has done in recent times. After all it can't be hard to do can it considering Poch has underachieved? Levy lucked out massively when he got Poch. I doubt he'll be as lucky with his next appointment.
I thought Lamela was our transfer record when we signed him? £30 million was a lot of money back then. It just didn't seem it because of the astronomical amount we got for Bale (who lets face it is worth more than 3 times of Lamela in anyone's money).Jury still out on Lo Celso imo, also, whilst not a "bargain" Lamela was cheaper than his worth.
Poch took over a squad that finished 6th with Sherwood...
I thought Lamela was our transfer record when we signed him? £30 million was a lot of money back then. It just didn't seem it because of the astronomical amount we got for Bale (who lets face it is worth more than 3 times of Lamela in anyone's money).
Indeed it was under Sherwood, with Sherwood taking over a team who had finished 5th under AVB the season before (with Superman Bale) but having slipped to 7th the season after at the point that Sherwood took over in December.
We were not a top 4 team when Pochettino took us over.
The squad he inherited from AVB/Sherwood was:
Gomes, Friedel, Lloris
Walker, Rose, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Dawson, Chiriches, Naughton, Fryers
Lennon, Paulinho, Lamela, Capoue, Townsend, Dembele, Chadli, Sigurdsson, Eriksen, Sandro, Bentaleb
Soldado, Adebayor, Kane
Us establishing ourselves as a top 4 team was a result of some good transfers (Alderweireld, Dier, Wanyama, Son, Ali) establishing an excellent team spirit and some very good coaching (Walker, Rose, Kane, Dembele, Eriksen)
Poch took a 5th/6th best team in the PL, spent less than all of those who had finished above him and still turned it into a top four team.