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Hugo Lloris

braineclipse said:
This is probably influenced by the fact that his mistake didn't cost us...

Good! Keep being brave. It was the kind of mistake I think we can accept.
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It’s true that does happen, the World Cup one was dismissed quite easily too.

There’s brave and there’s foolhardy. Trying to keep possession is one thing but overplaying when you are the last line of defence when you have a weak kicking ability in the first place just doesn’t have a pay off worth the risk. Also it must affect his credibility when it comes to giving orders to the defence. Hopefully it’s out of his system for a while as it’s the first one he’s been punished for this season.
 
MKSpur said:
It’s true that does happen, the World Cup one was dismissed quite easily too.

There’s brave and there’s foolhardy. Trying to keep possession is one thing but overplaying when you are the last line of defence when you have a weak kicking ability in the first place just doesn’t have a pay off worth the risk. Also it must affect his credibility when it comes to giving orders to the defence. Hopefully it’s out of his system for a while as it’s the first one he’s been punished for this season.
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I see that Pochettino is defending Lloris for the mistake, saying that he encouraged Hugo to play that way but I think that our capitaine might a little old to be evolving into a modern playmaker-keeper and probably better for him to stick to being a top drawer shot stopping sweeper-keeper.

 
dnrc said:
he does it all the time, and it's always putting us in trouble. Someone needs to tell him to just punt it

If we lose the ball after having punted it long at least it's 60 yards away from our goal with a bunch of defenders in between, not 2 fudging yards out!
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That's Sunday league talk. Any half decent centre back or keeper now are trained to retain the ball & that the risk/reward of playing it out/not going long is always worth it
 
Gutter Boy said:
That's Sunday league talk. Any half decent centre back or keeper now are trained to retain the ball & that the risk/reward of playing it out/not going long is always worth it
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that may be the case, but we are talking about Hugo Lloris here, sometimes you need to make exceptions
 
SteveAWOL said:
I see that Pochettino is defending Lloris for the mistake, saying that he encouraged Hugo to play that way but I think that our capitaine might a little old to be evolving into a modern playmaker-keeper and probably better for him to stick to being a top drawer shot stopping sweeper-keeper.

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Just read that. Again playing out is one thing Cruyff turns when being closed down when you already have the ball on your stronger foot offers little advantage compared to the risk of being caught even when it does come off in my opinion.
 
If there is a way to recover from such a howler...that was it. Two top saves that other keepers may not have made.
 
He was excellent all game IMO (if you ignore the howler). 3 great saves I can recall and very good handling all match.
 
metalgear said:
That's like plastering over cracks?
We need to see mistakes as they are, regardless of outcome, if you want to get full effort from the rest.
Pochs call ultimately, good test of his management.

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Not plastering over. Accepting that we play with some risk at the back. There will be mistakes, players will make mistakes either in decision making or technically. Lloris isn't the first and won't be the last, but I don't want us to change our style of play from the back.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Just fudging clear the fudging ball, Hugo. You are not a fudging outfield player - you have the first touch of a brick and the kicking ability of Tiny Tim.

This brick is leading to us conceding chances and goals by the fudging hatful.

Clear it into midfield, and let the team deal with it from there.

Christ. Properly tinkled off with him for that mistake. He made up for it by basically saving us twice in the second half, but...Jesus, *stop* playing it out!
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Still a better footballer than Sissoko
 
Gutter Boy said:
That's Sunday league talk. Any half decent centre back or keeper now are trained to retain the ball & that the risk/reward of playing it out/not going long is always worth it
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Quite. I'd rather we had the ball in the edge of our box than they had it on theirs.
 
Gutter Boy said:
That's Sunday league talk. Any half decent centre back or keeper now are trained to retain the ball & that the risk/reward of playing it out/not going long is always worth it
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What’s the reward exactly? Can’t recall us scoring or creating many chances from playing out from the back. On the other hand we concede chances and put pressure on ourselves which leads to goals when AT TIMES we could just be safety first and clear our lines. Especially when our keeper is very limited with his feet. I’m not saying whack it 90 yards but are they seriously not capable of playing a 20 yard pass?
 
Robspur12 said:
Made 2 world class saves after the howler. Still our best keepe imho.
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I agree with you on both points, however he really is poor when the ball is at his feet and his kicking is usually weak/poor. Now that may not be a bad thing unless you want your keeper to play out from the back and then we see mistakes like yesterday, and lets be honest his kicks downfield are not that much better( usually weak and more of a chip then anything else.

Still Poch wants him to play that way so if we are unhappy with it is Poch who should be taking the spotlight for it. I hope the club are keeping eyes out for young keepers who ( in time) will/maybe take over from him. Before anyone gets their knickers in a twist i am not suggesting that time is now.
 
A seven year old goalkeeper would be upset and embarrassed to try a drag back on his goal line and miss the ball entirely.

Let alone a World Cup winning keeper.

The idea of sucking in the attackers, is to free up Winks/Ndom a bit... the idea is just to engage the attackers, you don't have to actually dribble past them once they start running towards you. As long as they aren't marking Winks/Ndom, that is it.
 
Jurgen the German said:
What’s the reward exactly? Can’t recall us scoring or creating many chances from playing out from the back. On the other hand we concede chances and put pressure on ourselves which leads to goals when AT TIMES we could just be safety first and clear our lines. Especially when our keeper is very limited with his feet. I’m not saying whack it 90 yards but are they seriously not capable of playing a 20 yard pass?
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The reward is continued possession. If you go long the ball tends to come right back at you
 
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