Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Licence To Stand

[Spur of the moment]

Apparently there was a cap of 51,000

https://twitter.com/x/status/1059916221121003521

Thanks, just as I thought. No mention of that in the Scum or any other reports.

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

The Scum and other papers have been getting a dig at Spurs today over the poor turnout last night at Wembley last.

Anyone know whether or not this was a game where the capacity was limited to 50k?

47k for an away game against CL minnows....

 

[Spur of the moment]

Capacity WAS limited to 51k. However, we did only sell 46k tickets.

Frankly though, they can go and fudge themselves. We've sold out Wembley GHod knows how many times now. We've had well over 70k turn up to watch us play against the likes of Palace and Swansea. We sold out Wembley for a fudging Europa League game against Club Brugge for crying out loud!

I'm sure we're allowed one night without selling out - GHod knows Emirates Marketing Project and Arsenal have had it more than enough times. The former also having a fantastic side that could actually compete in Europe. And baffingly they have stayed away from the Champions League since they were first ever in it.

The attendance definitively could have been better still. But we've travelled to a stadium that isn't ours in droves for quite some time. We should probably be cut some slack.

I should also say that even though we were limited in capacity for some reason there were a small number of fans in the top tier which generally usually closed off?

What I find curious is that no matter whether the whole of the stadium is available or only half and whether it's a sell-out or not, we always seem to fall at least c5k short of whatever the permitted capacity is on the day.

 

[Glenda's Legs]

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I should also say that even though we were limited in capacity for some reason there were a small number of fans in the top tier which generally usually closed off?

ST holders are given the chance to purchase their seat from last year so that explains the upper tier being open. I think it has been for all games thus far. I assume they also allow others to buy up there. It doesn’t seem that many ST holders take up the option. Some probably do, but seemingly not many - I was upper tier last season and had decent seats but still prefer to be closer to the pitch and, apart from Barca, am buying lower tier seats this season.

 

[Kandi1977]

Capacity WAS limited to 51k. However, we did only sell 46k tickets.

Frankly though, they can go and fudge themselves. We've sold out Wembley GHod knows how many times now. We've had well over 70k turn up to watch us play against the likes of Palace and Swansea. We sold out Wembley for a fudging Europa League game against Club Brugge for crying out loud!

I'm sure we're allowed one night without selling out - GHod knows Emirates Marketing Project and Arsenal have had it more than enough times. The former also having a fantastic side that could actually compete in Europe. And baffingly they have stayed away from the Champions League since they were first ever in it.

The attendance definitively could have been better still. But we've travelled to a stadium that isn't ours in droves for quite some time. We should probably be cut some slack.

I should also say that even though we were limited in capacity for some reason there were a small number of fans in the top tier which generally usually closed off?

It's just a limit in capacity, there is no restriction on which seats are used.

 

[CanberraSpur]

Didn't the club say that their next update will be in early December?
In which case it is difficult to imagine any test events being held this year. Not impossible I supppse but unlikely given the Xmas break?
So beat case, test events in early Jan.
Which starts to make the Utd game seem less of a candidate for the opener.

When the delay was first announced we were at the start of August, about 6 weeks from the scheduled first game. Make of that what you will in light of the proposed early December date for the next major update/announcement.

 

[Glenda's Legs]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1060245504209100800

Beautiful!

 

[Baleforce]

amazing how an attendance, way above our average over the last 30 years, on a cold Tuesday night, for a game that was on TV, can be seen as disappointing

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

All our games are on TV, really. Effectively.

 

[spursfan1976]

Premier League clubs' frustration grows over Tottenham stadium delays

Spurs have been playing at Wembley, where the pitch has suffered from a packed schedule CREDIT:REUTERS

• Jeremy Wilson, chief sports reporter

7 NOVEMBER 2018 • 10:30PM



Frustration is growing within Premier League clubs at Tottenham Hotspur’s ongoing stadium delay and the continued use of a Wembley pitch that was described on Tuesday night by PSV Eindhoven manager Mark van Bommel as “s----”.

The annoyance centres not just on a playing surface that has also been used this autumn for American Football, as well as how clubs may face away games against Tottenham at different venues, but a view that the schedule to re-open White Hart Lane was always overly ambitious.

The Premier League have allowed Spurs to play their home games so far this season at Wembley, but the sight of NFL markings and such a worn pitch in one of the prestige fixtures of the season against Emirates Marketing Project has deepened disquiet among some rivals.

Premier League rule K.20 states that, "that the playing surface must contain no markings other than the traditional horizontal and white lines", but Spurs were given permission to play the City game only a day after the Philadelphia Eagles had beaten the Jacksonville Jaguars.

It is understood that effectively washing out the markings with the heavy use of water risked further damaging the pitch.

No Premier League club has previously split home games at different venues and, in 2015, league chief executive Richard Scudamore said that Spurs must play the entire season at one venue when they moved stadium. He cited “the integrity of the competition” for that stance and said that it would be “completely unfair” to play at two different grounds when the idea of playing at both MK Dons and Wembley was debated. Spurs were also permitted by the English Football League to play a Carabao Cup match at MK Dons this season.

Spurs have said that they will remain at Wembley until at least January, meaning forthcoming fixtures against Chelsea, Inter Milan, Southampton, Burnley, Bournemouth and Wolves will also take place at the national stadium. They could then open their new 62,000 stadium in either the FA Cup or the match against Manchester United on Jan 13.

A further update is expected next month and, while other Premier League clubs are well aware of the huge challenge of moving stadium, much of the frustration is founded on a belief that the timescale always invited problems. In that context, there is a feeling that more could have been done to avoid all the knock-on uncertainties and problems.

Tottenham have blamed the delay on contractors missing deadlines and are remaining cautious about committing to a future opening date.

"We know the continued delay is a source of immense disappointment to everyone and I can only continue to apologise for this - it is a sentiment felt by all of us,” said chairman Daniel Levy, who also made a point last month of thanking both the football authorities and their rival Premier League clubs.

"This is a stadium for another century and a few months' delay will hopefully soon be forgotten when we proudly return home," added Levy.

 

[Baleforce]

All our games are on TV, really. Effectively.

doesn't mean it's not a factor

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

doesn't mean it's not a factor

Yeah, but much less significant than it would have been a few years ago. Wembley fatigue is clearly a thing. Demand is down. We shouldn’t deny that just because most of the people pointing it out are doing so either mockingly, or in the entitled, hectoring tone of the Trust.

 

[Baleforce]

Yeah, but much less significant than it would have been a few years ago. Wembley fatigue is clearly a thing. Demand is down. We shouldn’t deny that just because most of the people pointing that out are doing so either mockingly, or in the entitled, hectoring tone of the Trust.

I'm not sure we have the data to conclude that, looking at CL attendances for Arsenal/City/Chelsea across multiple seasons suggests that a fall is natural when it's no longer a novelty.

The attendance was at 92% of capacity on Tuesday, looking at stats from across the CL this campaign, that is still high,

http://www.soccer-blogger.com/2018/...igures-2018-19-champions-league-crowds-18-19/

Wembley fatigue may be a thing, but the PSV game offers no evidence to support it.

 

[nelto]

Former Tottenham defender Paul Miller, now an ambassador for the club, believes the redevelopment of White Hart Lane will not be completed to stage first-team matches until February. (Love Sport Radio)



Above from BBC football gossip column.

 

[nayenezgani]

Sounds like it'll be Feb then...

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1042177/Tottenham-news-White-Hart-Lane-Paul-Miller

Test events in January?

 

[nelto]

I don’t know that Maxi was authorised to give out information, but to save clicking the link, he is quoted as saying:

"You see it every day on the social media. It looks magnificent.

"I'm sure it's not a long way off. I've certainly been informed within the club that we're looking at February as the start date.

"It still gives us three months but if you look at when we came out of there, it will have been 21 months.

"To build a stadium of that size and structure on the same site in 21 months is wonderful. It's a great thing for us all to look forward to."

 

[eddy]

Premier League clubs' frustration grows over Tottenham stadium delays

So I read on another portal that this w****** jeremy wilson is a livid soton supporters and hates anything Spurs because we got Poch a manager!!!! Go figure his piece of brick journalism!!!!!!!
Spurs have been playing at Wembley, where the pitch has suffered from a packed schedule CREDIT:REUTERS

• Jeremy Wilson, chief sports reporter

7 NOVEMBER 2018 • 10:30PM



Frustration is growing within Premier League clubs at Tottenham Hotspur’s ongoing stadium delay and the continued use of a Wembley pitch that was described on Tuesday night by PSV Eindhoven manager Mark van Bommel as “s----”.

The annoyance centres not just on a playing surface that has also been used this autumn for American Football, as well as how clubs may face away games against Tottenham at different venues, but a view that the schedule to re-open White Hart Lane was always overly ambitious.

The Premier League have allowed Spurs to play their home games so far this season at Wembley, but the sight of NFL markings and such a worn pitch in one of the prestige fixtures of the season against Emirates Marketing Project has deepened disquiet among some rivals.

Premier League rule K.20 states that, "that the playing surface must contain no markings other than the traditional horizontal and white lines", but Spurs were given permission to play the City game only a day after the Philadelphia Eagles had beaten the Jacksonville Jaguars.

It is understood that effectively washing out the markings with the heavy use of water risked further damaging the pitch.

No Premier League club has previously split home games at different venues and, in 2015, league chief executive Richard Scudamore said that Spurs must play the entire season at one venue when they moved stadium. He cited “the integrity of the competition” for that stance and said that it would be “completely unfair” to play at two different grounds when the idea of playing at both MK Dons and Wembley was debated. Spurs were also permitted by the English Football League to play a Carabao Cup match at MK Dons this season.

Spurs have said that they will remain at Wembley until at least January, meaning forthcoming fixtures against Chelsea, Inter Milan, Southampton, Burnley, Bournemouth and Wolves will also take place at the national stadium. They could then open their new 62,000 stadium in either the FA Cup or the match against Manchester United on Jan 13.

A further update is expected next month and, while other Premier League clubs are well aware of the huge challenge of moving stadium, much of the frustration is founded on a belief that the timescale always invited problems. In that context, there is a feeling that more could have been done to avoid all the knock-on uncertainties and problems.

Tottenham have blamed the delay on contractors missing deadlines and are remaining cautious about committing to a future opening date.

"We know the continued delay is a source of immense disappointment to everyone and I can only continue to apologise for this - it is a sentiment felt by all of us,” said chairman Daniel Levy, who also made a point last month of thanking both the football authorities and their rival Premier League clubs.

"This is a stadium for another century and a few months' delay will hopefully soon be forgotten when we proudly return home," added Levy.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Former Tottenham defender Paul Miller, now an ambassador for the club, believes the redevelopment of White Hart Lane will not be completed to stage first-team matches until February. (Love Sport Radio)



Above from BBC football gossip column.

Lets hope his 'insider' sources are as reliable as Graham Roberts' ones always are - i.e. what his nephew's mate read on COYS.

 

[harr1984]

Lets hope his 'insider' sources are as reliable as Graham Roberts' ones always are - i.e. what his nephew's mate read on COYS.

Well its hardly an outrageous time frame is it? We definitely wont be in there until the New Year, so February is feasible. Its not like we have a load of test events announced and ready to go.....

 

[MKSpur]

Leicester or Saudi Sportswashing Machine at beginning of Feb then if true , can’t see us making the first game the evening one against Watford end of Jan. I’d quite like an FA cup game against a lower league team though, a gentle introduction back for everyone.

Although if it was Watford and we somehow got them in a cup semi or final we could play them at four different grounds in the same season!