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Marcus Edwards

afsoc4life said:
Not bad heh - he is a springy fellow. Looks like a good loan move.
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Not bad - looks like he's really involved in the play, which is encouraging. Still got a way to go in terms of decision making and end product though. But the promise is still apparent.
 
Robbo said:
Not bad - looks like he's really involved in the play, which is encouraging. Still got a way to go in terms of decision making and end product though. But the promise is still apparent.
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His talent has never been in doubt, it's his ability to channel it into the team play.
 
Seemed like a promising loan for Edwards, but its gone it bit quiet - which may not be a bad thing. Let him get his head down. Looks like he played last week and did okay:

The Spurs teenager was a dangerman again as his side earned a 2-0 victory over a Vitesse side boasting Chelsea youngster Jake Clarke-Salter.

Edwards made more successful dribbles (4) than any player on the pitch and drew six fouls as Vitesse struggled to cope with him.

The England youth international created one chance during the win.

SBV Excelsior got smash 4-1 yesterday. I don't know how Edwards did or if he started again.
 
Found some commentry on the game yesterday:

7 ': Edwards escapes Abena, but the shot from the Englishman is just in front.

23 ': Excelsior should have taken the lead. Edwards was only allowed on Jurjus and decided to take the ball. That was the wrong choice, so Abena could clean up.

24 ': Now Edwards can walk in a Bruins cross, but the Englishman is unhappy and shoots.

33 ': Myenty Abena is struggling today with Edwards.

While SBV were in the game in the first half it looks like Edwards was involved in their attacks. After HT SBV conceeded 3 goals and edwards doesn't feature.

Looks like he's continuing his promising displays but needs more end product. It will come...! Excited he's holding his own in a new league. More to come.
 
I've watched practically every minute he's played and on the whole he has done well but there's still a lot there for him to improve on. The positives are that he's been able to transfer his dribbling ability into the seniors, he's beating opponents easily and winning a ton of fouls. He's also working hard off the ball, whilst he's not a particularly effective defender he is at least working back the other way, covering, blocking off passing lanes etc, he did have one game where he made six tackles which was the most of any player on either side but that was very much an aberration. One other small thing that he has improved on is that he's making more runs off the ball into goal-scoring areas, I was always felt this was a big weakness of his previously as all too often he'd generally just hang around the edge of the area hoping for any lose balls but now he's actually putting himself into position to nick a cheap goal - even if it hasn't quite happened for him yet.

As for the things he needs to work on .. his end product has been lacking, which I find somewhat strange as it's never really been something that he's particularly struggled with. He is also guilty of overplaying which has admittedly always been a trait of his. He does actually have a strong strike on him but he almost always wants to beat that one extra player to put himself closer to goal but by then the chance has usually gone, he just needs to simplify it sometimes as that will more often than not be the more effective option. He also drifts out of games for long periods, this is quite typical of wingers and I guess attacking players in general when their team isn't having a lot of the ball but when this is happening he needs to find a way of not becoming isolated. Unsurprisingly he does get knocked off the ball quite easily too but that is always going to happen until he's fully developed physically, the plus side is that it does win him some fouls but depending on the ref it can also result in him just losing the ball.

At the moment this move has definitely been a net positive and he's started every game(bar the first where he'd only been there a couple of days) so it's a step in the right direction for him.
 
Yoof said:
I've watched practically every minute he's played and on the whole he has done well but there's still a lot there for him to improve on. The positives are that he's been able to transfer his dribbling ability into the seniors, he's beating opponents easily and winning a ton of fouls. He's also working hard off the ball, whilst he's not a particularly effective defender he is at least working back the other way, covering, blocking off passing lanes etc, he did have one game where he made six tackles which was the most of any player on either side but that was very much an aberration. One other small thing that he has improved on is that he's making more runs off the ball into goal-scoring areas, I was always felt this was a big weakness of his previously as all too often he'd generally just hang around the edge of the area hoping for any lose balls but now he's actually putting himself into position to nick a cheap goal - even if it hasn't quite happened for him yet.

As for the things he needs to work on .. his end product has been lacking, which I find somewhat strange as it's never really been something that he's particularly struggled with. He is also guilty of overplaying which has admittedly always been a trait of his. He does actually have a strong strike on him but he almost always wants to beat that one extra player to put himself closer to goal but by then the chance has usually gone, he just needs to simplify it sometimes as that will more often than not be the more effective option. He also drifts out of games for long periods, this is quite typical of wingers and I guess attacking players in general when their team isn't having a lot of the ball but when this is happening he needs to find a way of not becoming isolated. Unsurprisingly he does get knocked off the ball quite easily too but that is always going to happen until he's fully developed physically, the plus side is that it does win him some fouls but depending on the ref it can also result in him just losing the ball.

At the moment this move has definitely been a net positive and he's started every game(bar the first where he'd only been there a couple of days) so it's a step in the right direction for him.
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Thanks for the great update. I was wondering if the games you watched have made you more or less confident that he could make it at Spurs. Or is it still too early to call?
 
SBV won yesterday with Edwards playing until 71 mins. Here's a translation of how he's getting on at SBV:

Introverted boy
Now he is at Excelsior, in the middle of the premier league. He is very introverted, they notice at the club. He is not a talker, does not make contact quickly, that's how it sounds.

It is one of the reasons why Tottenham thought it important that he be leased outside England, says managing director Ferry de Haan. "Not only in the field of football, but also in the social field, that would hopefully be a good development for Marcus." Apart from being a football player, they also want to take him further "as a person", he says.

In the lee of Excelsior, one of the smallest and quietest clubs in the Dutch league, he can get the personal attention he needs. De Haan: "We talk a lot with him, try to make him feel at ease."

The fact that young, technical players in the Dutch league have the time and space to develop themselves also participated in the Spurs' choice to store Edwards here in the Netherlands. Excelsior had been on a list for a long time and was tipped last summer by the Football Mix agency of the Humphrey Nijman agent that rent was an option. They also brokered the lease contract.

A hint of Messi is sometimes visible when you see Edwards playing. He was already in the 'Eleven of the Week', a section of Voetbal International . Sometimes he is inimitable, but often also invisible. Against Groningen (2-4 losses), he provides most of the threat and opportunity in the initial phase, but he does not score.

Insufficient yield
His return is still insufficient, with one assist in nine games. "In the last phase he usually loses the overview", says teammate Mounir El Hamdaoui. He has to become brighter, to claim more, according to El Hamdaoui. "Very often he is a bit drowsy, which is apathetic."

Edwards plays a bit like a junior, El Hamdaoui agrees. "If he has the ball he will dribble and he will see where it is stranding, there is no real idea behind it."

El Hamdaoui: "He has to become more mature. Occasionally you have to vary, which is firmer to the ball, hit once and choose the depth. It only starts with him when he has the ball. "

Friday after the match, Edwards does not want to speak to the press, although the team manager and the club spokesman in the locker room have talked to him to do it anyway. But he has "no sense", is the announcement. This would be partly due to experiences with the media in his homeland.

Always on time
It is a "challenge" to get through to him says Excelsior coach Adrie Poldervaart. They do not notice anything of discipline problems like at Norwich City. "He has to be there at half past nine, he is always on time."

According to El Hamdaoui, Edwards suffers from homesickness. "As a young boy in a different culture, in another country, it is difficult to adapt quickly. We try to involve him in the group in everything. "The homesickness also explains why he is so quiet, El Hamdaoui thinks. His father regularly comes to Rotterdam to support him.

Poldervaart: "He is only nineteen years old, you should not forget that."
 
I do find it strange when young footballers go abroad now. Imagine when you were 19 and you were so far away from your friends your family and loved ones. It may have happened to some of you but it's not natural to leave your family and friends at that age unless you go on a gap year.

It's good to get independence but it also must be quite lonely in a different country.
 
GinolaGinolaGinola said:
I do find it strange when young footballers go abroad now. Imagine when you were 19 and you were so far away from your friends your family and loved ones. It may have happened to some of you but it's not natural to leave your family and friends at that age unless you go on a gap year.

It's good to get independence but it also must be quite lonely in a different country.
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I couldn't wait to get away from my family at that age
 
Me and all my mates must have been right weirdo as none of my 6 mates left home till they got married, mind you 2 of them were the man of the household. Spurs use to send young players to Sweden at one time I'm sure Paul Miller and Gary Brooke went.
 
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